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Spamhaus Opening New Branch in China 222

Eggplant62 writes "ChinaTechNews.com is reporting that Steve Linford's Spamhaus.org will open operations with the help of Chinese government officials and ISP's in order to remove spammers operating servers on China's portion of the Internet. For years, China's unwitting ignorance of the spam issues they have with the rest of the world has been a major stumbling block in the fight to control spammers who operate from the netblocks of foreign nations. Seeing China take steps to help the world curb the scourge of junk email has me cheering all the way. Go Steve!"
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Spamhaus Opening New Branch in China

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  • Go China? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, 2004 @12:31AM (#9274518)
    A country that has massacred dissenters and viciously oppressed their people while routinely practicing human rights violations? Uhhh, yeah, "Go China"...
  • by blowdart ( 31458 ) on Friday May 28, 2004 @12:32AM (#9274527) Homepage
    A lot of the spamvertised web sites (including Richter's) are hosted on Chinese ISPs (71% according to a survey [chinatechnews.com] from Commtouch. (The same survey shows that 60.5% of spam is sent from US addresses)

    The ISPs are unresponsive to emails, some don't have abuse@ addresses and of course there's the language barrier. So, hopefully, a spamhaus setup in China will get the chinese ISPs to remove the spamvertised sites quickly.

    The effectiveness of this idea, of course, remains to be seen. I can see the temptation of taking hard currency when you're happily ignoring complaints about the "Make big penis" web sites hosted in your IP space.

    Now if only Russia would do something about the paypal, ebay and bank phishing spammers they host, then I might consider lifting some country blocks.

  • here ya go (Score:5, Informative)

    by Brightest Light ( 552357 ) on Friday May 28, 2004 @12:40AM (#9274572) Journal
    have at it [blackholes.us]
  • Re:Why not? (Score:5, Informative)

    by grainofsand ( 548591 ) <grainofsand@@@gmail...com> on Friday May 28, 2004 @03:15AM (#9275084)
    The policy of sending the family a bill for the execution bullet was ended in the late 80s.

    However, the death sentence can be imposed in cases of "economic crime" that involve amounts greater than RMB 100,000 (about US$12,000).

  • China? US! (Score:5, Informative)

    by hherb ( 229558 ) <<moc.lacidemogirrod> <ta> <tsroh>> on Friday May 28, 2004 @04:44AM (#9275352) Homepage
    I welcome any effort to reduce Spam anywhere.
    However, I just went through the hassle of analyzing what has been caught inmy spam trap today:
    243 spam messages total
    of which
    4 (four!) apparently came from China.
    7 came from Russia,
    1 came from Germany
    19 I haven't been able to work out yet
    the rest comes from ... USA. That's 212 out of 243, or almost a whopping 90%

    Guys, the problem is with the good old US, at least for the spam I receive. The legislation there is not biting at all.

    Anybody got a link regarding larger and long term spam statistics re country of origin?
  • by Steve B ( 42864 ) on Friday May 28, 2004 @08:00AM (#9275981)
    How is banning SPAM any different than banning VoIP

    Spam is theft of services. VoIP is not theft of services. Duh. I'd rather have a Free internet

    Freedom requires a justice system for punishing those who are found (after due process) to have violated the freedoms of others (e.g. by using their property without permission).

  • by Secrity ( 742221 ) on Friday May 28, 2004 @08:02AM (#9275989)
    I assume that by homegrown you are speaking of the US as "Snotty Scotty" is a Yank. Steve Linford, who is helping US authorities to track spammers, is a Brit. International help is needed because the Internet is international. One other group that needs to provide MUCH more help right now is the North American broadband providers. I believe that all of the spam that the notorious American (and some other English speaking nationalities) spam is sent either through non-US mail servers or through infected broadband connected home computers. The American spammers have gotten so notorious that they are unable to get connectivity from American providers. A quote from Steve Linford, March, 2003: "Alan Ralsky, Carl Henderson, Bill Waggoner, etc., are the bottom of the barrel of human society, they'll never be able to run a legitimate Internet-based business anywhere in the US again. We keep their history and will bust them with it for the rest of their working careers. By moving offshore they confirmed their intentions and burnt their futures. So they have to keep on the move and will need to find an alternative to China very soon...".

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