Celebrating Spam's Ten-Year Anniversary 275
khalua writes "Netcraft has a story that 10 years ago today, the first widely recognized spam was sent by... oh the irony...a law firm. Hate to see what a beast it grows into when it's 20." Reader prostoalex writes "Ever wonder why spam is so prevalent and who buys all those revolutionary products sold at unbelievable prices? Direct Marketing Association estimates $11.7 billion was spent on goods and services pitched via unsolicited e-mail. The average buy was $155, which exceeds the average of $114 that opt-in e-mail generated. It's worth noting that US e-commerce sales in general generated $50 billion total last year, however, the data was presented by a different researcher."
Re:That's Who (Score:4, Interesting)
Stupid twit prolly wonders how all those people "found her". Prolly likes to speak with telemarketers too.
Gah.
*sigh*.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Tho I may sound resigned and defeated to e-mail's evenutal fate, there are alternates. Instant messaging is easier controlled (I never get any Spam, but then I don't allow people on my buddy list to IM me). IRC and other online chats are tough to pollute as well.
In short my prediction is in 10 years I will have completely ditched my email address and I will be giving friends my ICQ UIN/AOL Handle/Yahoo Handle in lieu of it.
Ok I'm through ranting, time for everyone else to.
I'm old... (Score:4, Interesting)
here's a good mail filter (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:"First"? (Score:5, Interesting)
C&S huge innovation was that it *wasn't* cross-posted. They left a bot running all weekend to post identical messages to every newsgroup. That's why it was such a bitch to cancel them all.
Mail Enhancement Drugs (Score:2, Interesting)
Mourning Spam's Ten Year Anniversary
Ten Years of Spam Adversity
Ten Years of the most villainous scum (outside of Mos Eisley) crawling out of the woodwork
Ten Years of some putz trying to get $25,000,000 out of a bank account somewhere in the world
Ten Years of geeks valiantly slugging it out on the front lines of the conflict while Washington dithers
Ten Years abusing free speech in another vein
Ten Years watching a valuable resource be clogged by the low rung of the evolutionary ladder
Re:"First"? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:That's Who (Score:4, Interesting)
but here's the real question: why??
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Re:"First"? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Yeah, right (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh, I remember it well (Score:5, Interesting)
Back in the halcyon days of grad school, this...this...ad! shows up in a newsgroup I favored. I dashed off an e-mail them (several, in fact) including many full copies of their post. I encouraged my fellow students to do the same.
We were quite happy to learn later the flood of mail took down their server. Yes, there I was riding the crest of the spam fighting movement without even knowing it. And at the time it was just a break from Netrek and posting via anon.penet.fi...
This message has no point. Just some memories of an old guy. Did I ever tell you about programming the Commodore PETs in the math department in high school? It was like this...
Wasn't this the year (Score:3, Interesting)
To much admin time on email before spam (Score:4, Interesting)
Since SPAM has propogated on to email, I am reminded of my favorite lines out of the Unix Haters Handbook [mit.edu].
The interesting thing is that all this was published before the C&S Usenet spamming. How much time are admins spending on email management now?
SPAM has killed Usenet's usefullness for me. At least filters like Popfile [sourceforge.net] and such are keeping SPAM over email bearable; even if they are not fixing the problem.
How many times? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I'm old... (Score:2, Interesting)
What really helped get the ball rolling was Kroll's book in the fall of '92 (Sep/Oct) Around Jan/Feb '93, it hit the computer best-selling lists (yes, there are separate lists for those things) and the major publishing houses scrambled to catch up, despite being forewarned (before Kroll's book was published[1]) about the topic.
You're also old if you've seen an X-Files episode with the Lone Gunmen and they show the timeline to be 1990 and have a browser/GUI on a PC (and you spot this yourself). Consider that was the WWW in its infancy...
p.s. ([1]those parties also turned down "DOS for Dummies").
damn lies and statistics: 11.7b in spam sales? No (Score:4, Interesting)
And if you believe that number I have a new marketing technique for you called 'Silent Marketing'. Just pay me a few thousand dollars and your product will be available to millions of potential buyers! Billions of dollars were spent over the web this year, so obviously my marketing idea will generate billions of dollars for you! Never mind what the idea is, other people are making money so if you give me money, you'll be making money too!
Re:"First"? (Score:4, Interesting)
I was very active in usenet when this shit hit. I was running a smail uucp node using Matt Dillons uucp software and was subscribing to 40 or 50 newsgroups on a Amiga 500. I remember seeing that shit in all the newsgroups that I had. Hell, back then I would get unsolicited email all the damn time, but the difference being it was always from somebody and usually worth my time to reply to.
Them was the good old days. Usenet was useful and email was the best communication tool there was. Even if you where piping it out over a 2400 bps modem in a forward and store method.
God damn Fuckers...I hope they die a horrable death and burn in hell forever.
Re:"First"? (Score:3, Interesting)
Usenet was a haven for "GET RICH QUICK!!" and "ADD YOUR NAME" scams. Everyone was getting rich in those days. Some usenet groups were nothing but get rich schemes. I was always amazed that people would offer their address so willingly. But then, their cousin always knew someone who got rich doing it.
When the email spam started, people went haywire. But I don't think anyone ever imagined it would explode like today.
Re:"First"? (Score:3, Interesting)
The funniest MST3K fan-parody I ever saw was of that post. Here's the MST3k parody [google.com] which also includes the end of the world article, too.
Re:Typo (Score:4, Interesting)
-Martin
Re:kinda scary... (Score:2, Interesting)
The people who are responding to spam are stupider than the ones that go for the "It's, like 3 bucks on a hundred! And they're open late!" check-cashing services.
Yah, I'm an insesitve clod.
What I want to know is... (Score:0, Interesting)
Cruel and Unusual Punishment (Score:3, Interesting)
I say we go back to the days of stocks, pillories and public humiliation in an effort to stop spam. You get caught buying something via spam, you get hauled to the city square, shackeled to a post, and the rest of us get to throw rotten tomatoes at you. For example, buy Cialis and you get to spend your "special weekend" in the stocks.
Re:That's Who (Score:2, Interesting)
If they offered anything worthwile, they would be offering it in a shop or by some other legitimate means. If they offered anything anyone would actually want to buy (based on it's real merits, not the description spammers give), they wouldn't need to resort to spam.
After all, a legitimate insurance salesman won't break down your door and start telling you how everything is so fragile nowadays and how you really need an insurance to protect those fragile kneecaps of yours.
And yes, comparing spam and other kind of organized crime is appropriate. Spammers lead large organizations to circumvent various laws and live under a (very thin) veil of legitimacy. They make their money by selling dubious products; since some of these products are medicanes, I find it highly likely that at least some people have already died because of them (and AFAIK people have disappeared trying to get back money lost to Nigerian scams). Spammers also attack viciously against anyone who trys to stop them (remember the recent stories of DDOS attacs against anti-spam websites ?).
The only difference between the spammers and the Mafia is that no one attachs any amount of glamour to spammers.
Re:"First"? (Score:5, Interesting)
It is interesting that we have come to a time where corporations (legally equivilant to humans, but with out any of the responsibilities) have more free speech rights than people (remember, money is legally equivalent to speech, but without any of the responsibilies).
So, non-taxpaying legal person entities have the right to use their free speech to help elect our leaders.
Translation...
Corporations are allowed to use money to install a figurehead to help further disempower and enslave regular people.
Remember the great promise of the internet is that any regular person can put their silly ideas up for other regular people to read (like i'm doing now). Just wait until the free-marketers allow one company to own every switch between you and anyone else, then we will see.
I guess this seems a little off topic, but I guess what really bothers me is when corporate entities cry that their free speech is being impeded upon, especially when they use that power to silence real flesh and blood human-beings.