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In The Beginning & The Keys of Egypt 365

honestpuck writes "Linguistics has long been an interest of mine, and one of my fields of study, and I've recently read two good books that combine linguistics with other topics. The Keys of Egypt is the tale of history's most famous decoding task, the translation of Egyptian hieroglyphics and In The Beginning is the story of the King James Bible, the history, theology, politics, linguistics and technology that surrounded Bible translation and printing in Renaissance Europe and England." Read on for his combination review of two books that might inspire your curiosity, no matter how far from the usual Slashdot fare.
In The Beginning & The Keys of Egypt
author Alister E. McGrath & Lesley Adkins & Roy Adkins
pages 352 & 368
publisher Anchor & Perennial
rating 7
reviewer Tony Williams
ISBN 0385722168, 0060953497
summary A good book on the history of the King James Bible & A decent read on the translation of hieroglyphics

Hieroglyphs

The Keys Of Egypt was written by husband-and-wife archaeological team Lesley and Roy Adkins. It is subtitled "The Race to Crack the Hieroglyph Code," and starts with a short chapter that introduces the eventual winner of that race, the Frenchman Jean-Francois Champollion, and mentions his most serious rival, the Englishman Thomas Young.

The book goes on to examine Napoleon's expedition to Egypt which both brought the Rosetta Stone to light and started a period of French and European fascination with ancient Egypt. These were the two catalysts for the riddle's eventual solution.

This is a well-written book that looks at the struggle and race for translation and the political and academic machinations (often both combined) that surrounded Champollion. It is essentially a biography of Champollion, who grew up and worked amid the turmoil of the Napoleonic era. The story is a compelling one and the authors have done well to make it at times fascinating.

As a genre I find that 'scientific biographies' tend to be a little overblown and flowery, the writing not quite precise -- and Keys suffers from these shortcomings. I also felt that while the book is subtitled "The Race to Crack the Hieroglyph Code" it really only focuses on Champollion, while he is the eventual winner a little more effort in examining the others involved in the effort would have improved the book.

The Bible

It can be argued that the King James Bible has had as large an effect on our language today as the work of Shakespeare. 'In The Beginning' has at its core the story of biblical translation, a topic you may think anything but fascinating. McGrath has done a good job in making this a compelling book.

He starts, as one may expect, with the story of Gutenberg and his first printed bibles. Before arriving at the King James he covers Martin Luther, the rise of Protestantism in Europe, Henry the Eighth, more than one hanging, and several other bible translations and translators. Along the way he manages to dispel a few myths I had held about biblical translation and the King James in particular. I always thought that it was the King James version that introduced the idea of the main body in roman type and words inserted to clarify meaning in italics, but it was actually an earlier English translation known as the Geneva Bible that first implemented this idea. After explaining the technology, theology, politics and linguistics nuances that led King James to permit (but not fund) a new translation, McGrath tells us how the translation was accomplished organizationally before examining some of the nuances of the translation itself. Some of the language in the King James was archaic even when it was published; translators had been instructed to lift from previous translations all the way back to the partial translation of William Tynsdale published 90 years earlier, and this at a time when the English language was going through the huge changes of the Elizabethan era. McGrath examines this aspect, pointing out such things as changes in verb endings and personal pronouns.

I found the book patchy. McGrath does a much better job covering the story up until the translation. It is harder to get a feel for how the translation was accomplished and how the various teams worked, and when he comes to examine some of the nuances of the translation, the text makes much harder going. If this had not been a part of the topic that interested me a great deal, I may have lost interest.

Conclusion

Both books may have their flaws but both are well worth the read. It is important to realise the history of science and language that have brought us to our current place and both these volumes do a good job of illuminating the past efforts of men who worked under entirely different pressures than we find today.


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  • Understatement? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Otter ( 3800 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @12:46PM (#6589195) Journal
    It can be argued that the King James Bible has had as large an effect on our language today as the work of Shakespeare.

    I'm no expert on this but that seems like a huge understatement -- Shakespeare invented a few words and turned an enormous number of common phrases, but the King James translation surely had an even larger impact on English, no?

    If only for being responsible for the inversion of "thee/thou/thy" from familiar to formal speech.

  • Re:Religion (Score:2, Insightful)

    by lscotte ( 450259 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @12:56PM (#6589302)
    religion was introduced in ancient times as a deterrent against perceived immoral/harmful behavior

    Yes, of course it was! It surprises me that so few people seem to realize this. The best way to get people to follow some set of societal laws is to scare them into not violating such laws. The threat of 'eternal damnation' and promise of 'eternal life' clearly comes from this.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 01, 2003 @12:59PM (#6589336)
    Tyndale was truly a great man.

    His knowledge of languages was very great.

    It's tragic that he died, but atleast his final prayer on the burning stake was answered with the KJV:

    "Lord, open the King of England's eyes."

    The estimates are not that 80% of the KJV is based on his work, but that 80% is similar.

    What this means is that England's 47 best Hebrew and Greek scholar's of the day only disagreed with him on 20% of the bible.

    What an accomplishment for Tyndale.

    And his mission was eventually also fullfilled with Gutenberg and the KJV, so that the boy in the field may know more about the God's Word then the bishop of the Church Of England.

    You know we have christianity and the bible to thank for popularizing literacy.

    The chinese had the printing press a long time ago, but they didn't have the bible and thus no motive for teaching everyone to read, while western europe valued literacy very greatly because of the bible, their Holy book.

    Jews also had this advantage, in ancient times when most people didn't care to read/write every Jewish boy was being thaught to read their scriptures.
  • by binaryDigit ( 557647 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:02PM (#6589380)
    Yes, of course it was! It surprises me that so few people seem to realize this.

    But you can't use the fact that it might make sense to use it this way as an argument for the FACT that that was it's intended purpose. That's like saying that super glue, because it is effective at bonding things together, was created to repair china. While it may be true that it is good for that, it is wrong (originally created to help close wounds in triage on the battle field). So just because your explanation fits, doesn't make it the correct explanation. (god I hope none of you guys are detectives).
  • Re:Religion (Score:2, Insightful)

    by DaFlusha ( 224762 ) <darius,kazemi&gmail,com> on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:04PM (#6589408) Homepage
    You're right, but you're only seeing one side of religion. There's this thing called "spirituality" as well. And although I think organized religion is a pretty dry source of spirituality, that's another reason for its existence. I don't think it's possible to retain a valid model for a complex concept like religion by reducing it to a single societal need.
  • Re:Religion (Score:2, Insightful)

    by bigfleet ( 121233 ) <jim@jimvanBOHRfleet.com minus physicist> on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:12PM (#6589484) Homepage Journal
    Be careful that you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Organized religion may been been instituted by chiefs to validate their rule (along with other things, like what you suggest), but to believe that what we say, think, or do has any bearing on whether there actually is some creator-being outside our system is misguided.

    You may find the way the methods of organized religion distasteful, their beliefs flawed, their system corrupt, but it does not mean that religion itself is an "invention" without merit.

  • Occam's Razor... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by UnrefinedLayman ( 185512 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:16PM (#6589523)
    ...just sliced your reply in two.

    Sorry, but when faced with the two choices of:

    (a) There is a god, and he caused the creation of religion

    and

    (b) There is no god, and religion is an institution that has its roots in superstition and social control

    One has to make the most likely choice given the evidence at hand. Most logical, lucid people who discount that which cannot be proven find themselves coming to logical conclusions.

    It amazes me how some people (not necessarily you) will suspend the very logic which they use in every other aspect of their life just for the chance to believe in something or someone that, for all intents and purposes, doesn't exist.
  • by Zooks! ( 56613 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:17PM (#6589530)
    These guys must be try to pull one over on you because the New Testament was originally written greek.
  • Re:Religion (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JesterXXV ( 680142 ) <jtradke.gmail@com> on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:21PM (#6589556)
    ...but has it occurred to anyone that there may actually be truth to it?

    It occured to me for about 18 years. Then, suddenly, it occured to me that it might all be made up. And everything made much more sense that way.

  • No it doesn't. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by roystgnr ( 4015 ) <roy&stogners,org> on Friday August 01, 2003 @01:46PM (#6589819) Homepage
    The problem with trying to analyze why religions were "made up" and what social purposes (deterrence, discrimination, thought control, etc.) they are used for is that it ignores the possibility that there actually is a God, and that which we call "religion" came to exist as a result of God's revelation of himself, not as a result of random guesses or evil conspiracies.

    If that possibility is true, it just means that trying to analyze why one particular religion was "made up" would be pointless, but all the others are still fair game.
  • Re: Religion (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @02:05PM (#6590024)


    > *prepares to be modded down by liberals*

    > The problem with trying to analyze why religions were "made up" and what social purposes (deterrence, discrimination, thought control, etc.) they are used for is that it ignores the possibility that there actually is a God, and that which we call "religion" came to exist as a result of God's revelation of himself, not as a result of random guesses or evil conspiracies.

    a) What have "liberals" got to do with any of this?

    b) You seem blithely unaware that there are thousands of religions out there, many making mutually exclusive claims. You've got to recognize that most of them are bogus. If you want yours to be treated differently you need to give people a reason for it.

    > Everyone wants to treat religion as merely an object of study, like politics or literature...but has it occurred to anyone that there may actually be truth to it? And if there is a God and an afterlife, and your life on earth determines where you will spend eternity, isn't this something you just might want to take seriously? I mean, eternity is an awfully long time, and a lake of fire doesn't sound like too much fun.

    Ah, Pascal's Wager [wikipedia.org] rears its ugly head. Haven't you ever considered Homer's Counteroffer, which I'll take the liberty of misquoting from memory -

    What if we're going to the wrong church? We're just making Him madder and madder every Sunday!
    What if the real god just wants people to get on with their lives, and only punishes those who waste it on useless religious superstitions and ceremonies? Are you going to bet on that, too?

  • by nojomofo ( 123944 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @02:35PM (#6590347) Homepage

    And when human beings can stop using science to create new means of destroying himself, his fellow humans, and the planet, then I'll start believing we no longer need [a god]

    And when most of the wars that are destroying our fellow humans are caused by reasons other than "gods", then I'll start believing that they (gods) might not have a negative influence on human affairs.

  • by shokk ( 187512 ) <ernieoporto AT yahoo DOT com> on Friday August 01, 2003 @02:43PM (#6590426) Homepage Journal
    Why "most"? Are the few (the most destructive) from the 20th century that were caused by capitalism, communism, and plain old racism not enough? Blaming wars on religion is just a convenient excuse for crucifying Christians, beheading Bhuddist monks, burning Jews, and quartering Muslims because you don't like the wart on their face or the way they walk. There is usually something else not too much deeper if you care to look.
  • by hpulley ( 587866 ) <hpulley4@NoSpaM.yahoo.com> on Friday August 01, 2003 @03:00PM (#6590586) Homepage

    My problem with the argument that it might just be the real thing from a real God, is that I must ask the question, which God? Which Religion? Who is right? Who is wrong? Is Sunday the day off or Saturday? Does a being which created the universe really care? Are all the prophets right? How can they be?

    From the outside looking in at all the different religions with their different teachings (no matter how you try to reconcile the differences, some remain), it is obvious to an atheist that at least some of the beliefs are wrong. Each incompatible diety cannot have created the universe. If one of them did, then the rest of them do not exist but try telling that to all the different believers.

    Is there room for a God in the universe? Sure, but I won't believe in one and certainly won't worship one based upon ancient texts alone. Asking begged questions doesn't help either.

  • Re:Hilarity Ensues (Score:2, Insightful)

    by UnrefinedLayman ( 185512 ) on Friday August 01, 2003 @07:13PM (#6592679)
    Obviously not. But you are the one claiming that God doesn't exist, not me. Are you able to justify your claim or not? You don't seem to realize that I'm not in a position to prove that. One cannot prove a negative; you're attempting to get me to say "I can't prove it," and you're right, I can't. It's not possible. The next step is likely "If you can't prove it, you can't discount it." Bzzt. I have no reason to believe it, and as I already said, the only way I'd believe it is with hard, solid proof.

    And what might that be? Get god to look me in the eye and say "UnrefinedLayman, I do exist. Watch me smite someone!"

    Then we'll talk.

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