Spammers Threaten Techdirt With Lawsuit

An anonymous reader writes "Found over at Declan McCullough's Politech, some spammers who had been written up in the NY Times found their contact info displayed on Techdirt, after they wrote about the NY Times story. Apparently, someone was trying to pull a Ralsky on the spammers. The spammers got pissed off and threatened to sue Techdirt - even though all the info was publicly available and other court cases have shown it's legal to post spammer's contact information. Techdirt, interestingly, took the contact info down because they feel that no one should get spammed. I'm kind of torn on this one. On the one hand, I respect Techdirt for taking such a stand, but on the other, I feel that the spammers clearly deserve to be spammed back. The fact that they threatened Techdirt, despite them not having done anything wrong (it wasn't even the folks at Techdirt who posted the info - but some readers), makes me even angrier at the spammer."

Re:And your surprised why?

[prmths]

speaking of abusing ISP's... I used to run a web hosting company (that failed because i can't sell worth sh*t).. but before i know anything about what i was doing, my mail server was setup as an open relay (i know, i should go to hell) -- but anyways, one day, my server became completely unusable because of the amount of spam they were pumping through my server. I quickly killed the mail server and proceded to start over on it. Soon after, I got listed on RBL lists and finally once my mail server was fixed (btw, smtp auth works wonders) I stopped having problems with the bandwidth thieves and got myself off the RBL lists. I paid for my ignorance... The point is: besides annoying the hell out of EVERYONE in the world, spammers are no more than thieves stealing resources from ISP's --- not like ththe ISP's don't have it coming... but they're still thieves.

from google

[Anonymous Coward]

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:5ZxgA2bz1tUJ: www.techdirt.com/articles/20030424/2023243_F.shtml +techdirt+spammer+times+site:techdirt.com&hl=en&ie =UTF-8

and

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20030424/202324 3_ F.shtml

not the original, but has the links to the spammers involved.

Re:Okay, bring 'em on

[akadruid]

in case anyone lacks the imagination, some good places to start might be:
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Free Samples! [google.com]
Free Magazine Trials! [google.com]
my favourite:
Free Serenity Pads! [young-america.com]
and a load more here...
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A free gift for anyone who signs him up for more than 100!! Just post your address...

It is our duty to reward them for making a stand for spammers everywhere. These free items will come in handy for filling the extra space in those big houses.

Re:Which spammers? These spammers

[Anonymous Coward]

That would be known spammer [nytimes.com] Alyxsandra Sachs 112 Catamaran St Marina Del Rey, CA 90292-5769 [phone] [e-mail] 323-871-2000x11 Fax Number: 323-871-0625 Albert Ahdoot [e-mail]

This COMES from /.!

[I)_MaLaClYpSe_(I]

I followed the link to a cached version of the techdirt site someone linked to, and you know what?

The Address of Alyxsandra Sachs was not posted on techdirt but a link to... you guessed it, slashdot! Someone only posted this [slashdot.org] link :-).

I find this extremely funny :-)

Re:Which spammers? These spammers

[Anonymous Coward]

Reformatted for faster copying to webforms:

Alyxsandra Sachs
112 Catamaran St
Marina Del Rey
CA 90292-5769
[phone]
[e-mail]

Albert Ahdoot
323-871-2000x11
Fax Number: 323-871-0625
[e-mail]

Re:You have the money?

[minus_273]

ah you mean this:

Sachs, Alyxsandra

112 Catamaran St
Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
[phone]

Ask her the same questions...

[Mr. Underbridge]

[nytimes.com]: "These antispammers should get a life," she said. "Do their fingers hurt too much from pressing the delete key? How much time does that really take from their day?"

Here's a better for question Alyx. How long does it take to throw out all of those catalogs that slashdot readers have thougtfully sent your way? You know, you could just have someone look through your mail for you (mail filter).

But you complain that the mailman won't deliver your mail when your box is full? Kind of how my mail gets rejected when my online account fills up? Well, get a bigger box! (Watch the lewd comments buys).

You know Alyx, you could just check your mail more often! Hell, put a big dumpster on your lawn for all that!

Or, you can maintain a private PO Box account and assume your public address is ALL SPAM- kind of like I have do online.

See, Alyx, it's pretty much the same thing. And it sucks. So don't cry to me.

the address of the other two

[abhisarda]

Registrant:
Albert Ahdoot (NETGLOBALMARKETING-COM-DOM)
Net Global Marketing Inc.
18375 Ventura Blvd
Suite 326
Tarzana, CA 91356
USA
3238459660
2069841344
aahdoot@yahoo. com

Domain Name: NETGLOBALMARKETING.COM

Administrative Contact:
Richard Stewart [e-mail]
219 North Main
Suite 210
Bryan, TX 77803
USA
9798222827

Getting off the junk lists - permanently

[Anonymous Coward]

Too bad you spent all that cash on postage begging the mailers... I would have simply gone to the nearest post office, and asked for form 1500 - the one that's used for opting out of pornographic mailings.

Complete one form for each catalog/advertisement that you receive, and return it to the USPS Prohibitory Order Processing Center. The USPS POPC will issue an order against the mailer prohibiting them under federal law from sending you anything again for the next 5 years - better yet, they have to delete your name/address from all their lists (except the do not mail listing) and can't sell, rent, lease, loan, gift, or otherwise transfer your information to anyone.

If they ignore the order, then you send a copy of what they sent you and a copy of the order to the POPC - they'll make a determination and file a complaint on your behalf with the local US Atty General against the mailer... Most mailers comply immediately, some require some followup (the Chicago Tribune took a lot of follow up, but they eventually stopped).

Best of all - you have complete, unfettered, and unreviewable discretion in what is and is not considered to be a pandering and/or erotic advertisement. In fact, you can declare a dry goods catalog to be such if you wish (e.g., coupons, anything qualifies if it's for sale). This is taken directly from a US Supreme Ct. case back in the 70's which was filed by the direct mailers v. a law that congress passed - the USSCt basically told the mailers that it was too bad - the law stands...

I've used it successfully and receive almost NO junk mail. The occasional piece that comes thru gets marked REFUSED, RETURN TO SENDER and goes right back in the box. The second copy that comes gets a Prohib. Order filed on it.

Now if I could only get the morons who deliver those door-to-door advertisements to read the sign that says "DO NOT LEAVE ADVERTISING MATERIALS. NO TRESSPASSING" I'd be set...

Re:the address of the other two

[frankie]

Albert Ahdoot:

• Whitepages [whitepages.com]
• Infospace [infospace.com]
• Switchboard [switchboard.com]

Richard Stewart is unfortunately a common name. There are at least 50 matches in Texas.