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Using X-ray Radiography To Reveal Ancient Insects

Posted by kdawson on Tue Apr 01, 2008 07:32 PM
from the bug-me-not dept.
1shooter writes "Researchers in France are using a synchrotron as a giant X-ray machine to peer into the insides of opaque amber to reveal insects dating from the age of dinosaurs. 'The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility in Grenoble, France, produces an intense, high-energy light that can pierce just about any material, revealing its inner structure... From more than 600 blocks, they have identified nearly 360 fossil animals: wasps, flies, ants, spiders.' The process reveals detailed 3D images that can be used to make near-perfect enlarged scale models of the bugs using a 'plastic printer.'"
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  • by Skevin (16048) * on Tuesday April 01 2008, @07:34PM (#22936306) Journal
    > From more than 600 blocks, they have identified nearly 360 fossil animals: wasps,
    > flies, ants, spiders

    Why so far away? They might get better resolution if they held the sample right up next to the machine.

    Solomon Chang
    • I thought the same. Damn, that's a powerful beam of light that shines 600 blocks into the ground!


      Also, the video in TFA is worth the time. What I'm wondering is, why the need for a synchrotron? Why not just any old X-ray machine?

      • by Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @07:46PM (#22936412)

        >why the need for a synchrotron?

        Resolution. Details are shown at the micron level.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          That and x-ray purity, and a highly controllable coherent source (you can set the energy to what you like), one ring can have hundreds of outlets whereas one laser has one, and they are Seriously Geeky.
      • by sokoban (142301) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @08:27PM (#22936704) Homepage

        What I'm wondering is, why the need for a synchrotron? Why not just any old X-ray machine?
        It seems from the video that the technique they're using needs collimated and coherent light. It seems that they are measuring the change in coherence based on the light being shined through the sample in order to calculate density differences and show structure. They're not doing diffraction measurements here, and the samples don't look like they're large enough to require the intensity generated by a SLS.
        • by H0D_G (894033) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @09:18PM (#22937000)
          The technique is similar to in line holography, in that the resultant image (a phase-contrast X-ray image)is constructed from the phase information of the light, as distinct from the intensity. phase contrast imaging is good for 'squishy' structures as it only needs a very small shift in refractive index to influence the phase, meaning that structures similar in density (ie, that would look similar on a conventional X-ray) can be produced.
    • by RealGrouchy (943109) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @11:11PM (#22937454)
      *looks up from the amber specimen*

      "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"

      - RG>
  • Yes, but... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Naughty Bob (1004174) * on Tuesday April 01 2008, @07:38PM (#22936344)
    Researchers in France are using a synchrotron as a giant X-ray machine......Do they run Linacs?
    • by gnutoo (1154137) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @10:27PM (#22937312) Journal

      HPC is pretty much Linux dominated and you need some serious horsepower to do 1000 angle sinogram backprojection of cm sized volumes with micron sized beams. A cubic cm would have 10E4 x 10E4 x 10E4 voxels, each with 10E3 angles. Hubba, hubba. They will also have to apply some kind of filtering to each sinogram and probably have to tweak that filter multiple times on lower resolution scans to get it right, and they want to do several a day. I've seen Microsoft clusters choke on networking problems for much less challenging work.

  • I didn't realize that insects have been dating for millions of years.
  • Holotype (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @07:43PM (#22936394)
    A very interesting sidelight of this is that they "print" a 3d model of the data in plastic, and this model becomes part of the official holotype of the new species. A first for taxonomy, I believe. A 1 mm wasp gets turned into a highly detailed 30 cm model. Very cool, at least if you're a biologist.
    • The 3-D model is then encased in Amber, for protection and buried for the pleasure of future palaeontologists. Ohh wait...
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      The 3-D printing I've heard about builds up the model layer by layer. One thing I don't understand is how they "print" the legs, antennae, etc., since these (if pointing downwards) would have to be suspended in mid-air until the layers that attach them are printed, i.e. they would fall off. So do they print these separately then glue them on?

      One thing I would like to see is the following. Even though I've never heard of it, it is possible that this has been thought of and/or patented. But if not, this

  • by garett_spencley (193892) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @07:58PM (#22936490) Journal
    "The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility in Grenoble, France, produces an intense, high-energy light that can pierce just about any material,"

    Does anyone know where I can obtain one of these devices ?

    I always thought they were just a novelty sold via mail order in Mad Magazines. Can't tell you how many times I've been disappointed. If this is the real deal then please ...
    • I want one on a shark.
    • Darn! I was thinking of posting the same thing!

      Men around the world have been waiting for the ability to selectively see through any kind of materials!

      Why does the goverment allow Kryptonians to hoard this technology? It is all a conspiracy, I tell you!
    • "The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility in Grenoble, France, produces an intense, high-energy light that can pierce just about any material,"

      Does anyone know where I can obtain one of these devices ?

      I always thought they were just a novelty sold via mail order in Mad Magazines. Can't tell you how many times I've been disappointed. If this is the real deal then please ...

      I was thinking more along the lines of a small device for amplification by stimulated emission of radiation of that "high-energy light that can pierce just about any material", and having said contraption affixed to the pericerebral cartilaginous structure of a shark.

      I expect that the project would cost around... one MILLION dollars!

  • >>From more than 600 blocks, they have identified nearly 360 fossil animals

    I'm sure the people in the 600 city blocks between the x-ray machine and the amber weren't too happy...

    -b
  • by Roger W Moore (538166) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @08:31PM (#22936744) Journal
    I wonder if this technique will work with Fortran code we still use in our Monte-carlo generators for the LHC. I'm sure it also contains ancient bugs....
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      X-ray Radiography - as opposed to Gamma-ray Radiography
      into the insides - yeah that one is redundant
      intense, high-energy - it's possible to have high intensity streams of low-energy photons, likewise low intensity streams of high-energy photons.
    • by H0D_G (894033) on Tuesday April 01 2008, @09:12PM (#22936966)
      Actually, intense and high energy are not necessarily the same thing, especially in terms of radiation. intense means that the number of photons over an incident area is high, whilst high energy means that the photons are from the higher frequency end of the X-ray spectrum.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          Having the use of the SLC linac certainly made life easier for LCLS, but XFEL is being built on completely virgin ground. If (and it's more of an "if" than a lot of people want to admit) LCLS works, then the demand for X-FELs will be *huge*. There are rumours of a second being planned at SLAC, and one in the UK. These machines are very very cool, and stunningly useful for many other fields of research. I'd bet they won't be able to build these machines fast enough to satisfy demand!

          I've never heard of that before, (specifically the second one at SLAC, would it use electron beams from the existing linac or a new one?). The only thing I've heard of is that there are talks of possibly turning PEP-II into a extremely low emittance synchrotron radiation source,a la PETRA, since there's basically not going to be any more accelerator based particle physics at SLAC. Are there really questions as to whether the LCLS will work (i.e., meet its stated design parameters), or do they center more