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A $1 Billion Email Gaffe
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kdawson
on Tuesday February 05, @06:59PM
from the oops-with-nine-zeros dept.
from the oops-with-nine-zeros dept.
Jake writes in with the story behind an explosive NYTimes scoop last week. It seems that the Times's pharmaceutical industry reporter, Alex Berenson, scored a page-one blockbuster when he revealed that Eli Lilly was looking to reach a settlement with federal prosecutors over the company's alleged inappropriate marketing of anti-psychotic drug Zyprexa. A settlement figure of $1 billion was mentioned. This scoop dropped into Berenson's inbox when a lawyer for one of Lilly's retained firms mis-addressed an email to a colleague with the same last name as that of the Times reporter. Some online observers are speculating that auto-complete is to blame, but this has not been confirmed.
Update: 02/08 17:19 GMT by KD : Jake writes in with an update: it seems that while Berenson did receive a misdirected e-mail from Pepper Hamilton, that e-mail did not contain a detailed description of the status of the Eli Lilly settlement talks. Berenson got his story from other sources.
Update: 02/08 17:19 GMT by KD : Jake writes in with an update: it seems that while Berenson did receive a misdirected e-mail from Pepper Hamilton, that e-mail did not contain a detailed description of the status of the Eli Lilly settlement talks. Berenson got his story from other sources.
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auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Interesting)
If the info was confidential it probably had a confidentiality notice at the bottom of it, stating that if you are not the intended recipient that you aren't allowed to do anything with the email. I saw one of those sig's today and started to wonder if that was legally binding in any way. Maybe we will find out now!
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Interesting)
These types of court decisions would not, however, support a "prior restraint" such as a court order prohibiting the NYT from publishing the information, see, e.g., New York Times Co. v. United States [wikipedia.org] , 403 U.S. 713 [cornell.edu] (1971) (5-to-3 ruling prohibiting prior restraint and allowing NYT to print the top-secret "Pentagon Papers").
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Funny)
IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that putting a notice at the bottom of a message creates a legally binding contract.
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Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Insightful)
If someone emails me something and then whines about what I do with it, perhaps they should have come to me first and said "I'm sending you (x), but if I do, will you not do (y) with it?" and then only sent it after I agreed? THAT would be enforceable.
The lawyer is SOL.
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Informative)
Also, since settlement information is excluded from evidence when trying to prove culpability, and never reaches the finder of fact in a court case anyway, this whole story is pretty pointless. While the leak may have a modest effect on stock prices, the fact that Eli Lilly attempted to settle and the amount in question couldn't possibly matter less in the case at bar.
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:auto-complete is at fault? (Score:5, Interesting)
Hi Peter (not my name),
The amount for the chemistry building work is now confirmed as £85,000,000.00 exactly -- I've left a cheque on your desk, could you sign it please?
Cheers, Dave
Turns out that my relatively unusual surname is shared with the finance director at my university. For about a month I got a few of his emails, I assume because my first name is earlier in the alphabet.
***Legal Notice*** and I mean it. (Score:5, Funny)
You are legally binded from reading, forwarding, printing, copying, remembering, discussing or in any other way acknowledging this post.
I am planning on robbing the bank on Fifth and Elm. Do not alert the police. Meet me at the warehouse after.
captcha:overlook
New feature! Auto-complete your career! (Score:5, Funny)
This happens to me all the time! (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know what Eli Lilly's lawyers charge (Score:5, Insightful)
It's funny, you know ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Huh. I'll bet they will now.
Very Nasty Stuff (Score:5, Interesting)
I was on this terrible crap for a while...after 2 weeks I had gained 15 pounds (not exaggerating).
I remember finding myself on the candy Isle at the supermarket shoveling 12-packs of twix, snickers, and all kinds of other candy into my shopping cart...and I usually don't eat sweets.
These 'medications' are really horrible...it's sad that so many people believe schizophrenia is easily treated with them. Big pharma marketdroids are mostly to blame. In fact, after 6 months, 80% of the people on these medications quit (I suspect the other 20% are forced to take it by hospital staff)...they actually prefer being crazy (unable to work, take care of themselves, go to public places, etc.) rather than take them...the side-effects are that bad.
Re:Very Nasty Stuff (Score:5, Informative)
The best example is the insane amount of kids with an ADD diagnostic... sure, there ARE people who are truly chemically imbalanced and such, and need treatments of some kind...I really feel for these people. The rest just need some discipline stuck in their head. As far as I know (and I know quite a few people in the field), most people getting these prescriptions don't even pass a fraction of the tests that would be required to make a proper diagnostic. The psychiatrist just go by "guts feeling".
And then you end up on mind control medication.... You're "better", but you're not "you" anymore... Some treatments are required... some mental illness CAN be treated... but in general, whats available right now is just a big cash cow, not treatments.
Re:Very Nasty Stuff (Score:5, Interesting)
Um, no. (Score:5, Insightful)
As I tried to explain to one of the Three Letter Acronyms of our company this morning, "Auto-Complete" is not to blame. "Not Paying Attention" is to blame. If you can't be bothered to look at who you are sending stuff like this to, then please step back from the computer and have someone else handle complicated things like email for you.
Surely if you are doing billion dollar deals then you can afford to hire someone capable of working a keyboard without embarrassing him or herself.
Pardon the pedantry...misleading headline (Score:5, Informative)
Why was the address there? (Score:5, Interesting)
Why was the reporter's email address already in the lawyer's address book? They should check his mail logs and see what else he send to that person before.
Tell Me About It (Score:5, Funny)
Signed,
Pritchard Cheney
I take ten milligrams of Zyprexa every day (Score:5, Informative)
But schizoaffective disorder is a devastating illness: it's just like being manic-depressive and schizophrenic at the same time. The risperdal I took previously for my psychotic symptoms wasn't working anymore. From 2003 through 2007, I was in the emergency room five times for psychiatric reasons, culminating in an ambulance ride to the mental ward, where I stayed for three weeks.
The Zyprexa completely eliminates the paranoia and visual hallucinations I would otherwise have almost all the time. It also brought me down from the bipolar mania that led to my ambulance ride, and prevents me from getting manic anymore.
As a result of taking it, I am able to hold a steady job - and a good one - as a software engineer, to provide for my wife and to pay her University tuition.
I've heard rumours that Zyprexa might be withdrawn from the market. I really hope that doesn't happen, as I've never had a medicine work so well.
Happened to me once... (Score:5, Interesting)
Except he misspelled his own email address, and the images started coming to me, a complete stranger.
I stitched all the shots together into this time-lapsed movie:
http://knodi.com/images/floral_park/time_lapse.gif [knodi.com]
Re:The best part is, (Score:5, Informative)