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AT&T Invents Surveillance Programming Language
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on Tuesday October 30, @09:45AM
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An anonymous reader writes "AT&T has long been associated with advances in the programming arts as well as communications. They've recently brought those disciplines together to create a powerful datamining language called Hancock. Hancock is a C variant developed to mine gigabytes of the company's telephone and internet records for surveillance purposes. 'The manual for the language includes a Hello World variant that shows you how to write a program that will parse logs of IP addresses and record them into permanent hashes. The program for parsing millions of records as they flow into permanent data farms sounds oddly close to the data mining the NSA performed after 9/11 to find targets for its warrantless spying on American citizens calls and emails."
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Hancock.. worst name ever. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hancock.. worst name ever. (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday November 01, @10:16AM)
Re:Hancock.. worst name ever. (Score:5, Funny)
You're almost right (Score:5, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/)
John Hancock (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.halley.cc/ed/)
Jokes aside, is this related to John Hancock?
John Hancock was an American Revolutionary, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. He signed it as largely and boldly as possible, much larger than any of the other signatures on that document, so that the King of England would have NO trouble identifying him in the face of his (and his compatriots) clear act of treason. His name is now synonymous with autograph or signature, as in, "Can I have your John Hancock here, please?"
If the AT&T technical staff called their data mining "language" Hancock, it may have been a poetic choice: AT&T is signaling their actions, and/or the actions of the government agents, are akin to treasonous. Yes, the charge of 'treason' is nearly moot in modern US law, but the fact remains that any sensible reading of the Constitution would not indicate any authority for what the government is doing with our communications.
Re:John Hancock (Score:4, Insightful)
In other words, there would be no doubt as to who was behind the words coming from the machines. An involuntary Hancock as it were.
Ironic Name (Score:1, Insightful)
!constitution (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Ironic Name (Score:5, Funny)
web server (Score:1, Funny)
Heard near Massachusetts... (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://127.0.0.1/ | Last Journal: Friday November 02, @08:43PM)
"Hey, what's that whirring sound?"
"It's the founding father [wikipedia.org] this programming language is named after...spinning in his grave..."
And what do facebook use? (Score:2, Interesting)
Variations (Score:5, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/journal.pl?op=list&uid=911325 | Last Journal: Monday October 29, @02:52PM)
We are already working on:
Ummm.... (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday November 08, @06:00PM)
Don't worry! (Score:5, Insightful)
If you haven't done anything wrong, then you have nowhere to hide!
Whoops - I mean nothing. Nothing to hide.
Hello world (Score:5, Funny)
not a new language (Score:5, Informative)
(http://booktextmark.mozdev.org/)
perl (Score:2)
*AFTER* 9-11? (Score:3, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Bottom line? 9-11 is irrelevant to their intent... 9-11 helped provide some justification in the eyes of some, but the evidence shows that this stuff has been planned WELL in advance of 9-11 and this is not a reaction or over-reaction.
Prior Art (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: Thursday March 31 2005, @01:48PM)
Hello World in Surveillance Language (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~maw48/)
Never has that program name been so fitting.
Proof? We don't need no stinking proof! (Score:2, Troll)
(http://www.freethelaplandsix.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday May 23 2006, @08:37AM)
I sense a new meme! (Score:1, Funny)
Oh lord... (Score:2)
Hancock (Score:2)
(http://www.otanashide.com/ | Last Journal: Friday November 02, @12:37PM)
I thought many of these ISP and ISP parent companies had stated officially that they had issues with excessive data retention (storage space, processing of the enormous data sets, legal issues, etc...). Now, this, from one company that is probably going to make some enemies.
What good (other than government surveillance and corporate marketing) can come from this without harming privacy?
Did anyone read up on the language? (Score:4, Informative)
Also, it was created in 2000.
Its intent, as some have mentioned, was marketing.
Basically it does what Google Analytics or WebTrends does for the web.
It actually seems like a nice language, for those who want to quickly run through gigs of data.
I see nothing evil about the language itself.
It, like C, perl, PHP, or any other language you chose to use - Can be used for whatever purpose the programmer chooses.
Its intent was marketing, and almost every company in existence wants to know more about their customers.
Hancock Written Before 2001 (Score:4, Insightful)
The US Government uses Linux, so are we to presume that Linus Torvalds is an agent of George Bush and the broad conspiracy to spy on you?
Hash indeed... (Score:2)
Sure, I can just imagine what the hash function is, based on AT&T's recent history:
AT&T may not have invented it entirely.... (Score:3, Interesting)
If you look here [findlaw.com] and research the case a bit, you'll find that a Maryland company may have actually been more responsible for ATT's abilities than ATT would like to admit. That company is now defunct, unfortunately, and so it's now safe for ATT to pretend that they've done work in the area without answering to more law suits.
It was a very technically challenging job. We helped to index records for these guys [lexisnexis.com] until mid-2005. We did it in effectively O(n) time - the cool factor was higher than the say-nothing factor.
And yes - I know that academia will claim that it's not possible, that data correlation must be O(n^2). For the decade that we did it, we were sure glad that academia held to that position.
Enough reminiscing.
A "new" concept? (Score:1)
Great Name!! (Score:2)
Ellen Hancock? (Score:1, Interesting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip [wikipedia.org]
Wasn't Hancock the name of the academic stooge that was pushed front and center by the feds to shill for this thing, claiming that we could trust Bill & Algore with the key escrow? I seem to remember a fawining article in the ACM Communications pimping for the clipper chip.
I wanna say Ellen Hancock, former IBM and Apple exec, but her bio makes no mention of time spent in academia or shilling for bad wiretapping schemes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Hancock [wikipedia.org]
Even if it's not her, I wonder if the programming language namesake and the government spying toady are one in the same.
Hancock's Half Hour (Score:1)
Oh I love it. (Score:1, Interesting)
I started to notice patterns on how people would get busted.
Kid A finds a valid code.
Kid A calls his buddy Kid B using the code, and gives him the code.
Kid B then calls Kid A back using the code.
From there the dispersion of this code goes out exponentially for 2 weeks till the code gets deactivated.
I start to see a pattern were this kids would then get Busted, or at least a nasty phone call, maybe even some letters.
Later I would start to see my software pass over valid codes as not valid.
The phone networks started to sense we were trying numbers sequentially and deactivate them just before we would try it.
This had to be done in realtime.
Next was pseudo random numbers we were using, but this eventually failed in the same way.
Then I used just the random() function in the basic language our code ran in.
That also eventually started to fail!
Noticing this intelligence in the system I came up with what I called the reverse pyramid around 1983.
I Eventually came up with a scheme for pseudo random generators that wouldn't fail. This was done using a central server(over phone lines) and was the only way to solve this since it had become obvious that telco security people were also getting copies of our war dialers. ( The purpose for pseudo random instead of pure random was that we wanted to get full coverage of a specific number space each kid was scanning. )
Basically the dialers would not tell the kid running the software they had come across a code.
Instead it would contact a very small server hidden in the phone network and upload the code it had found.
Then at a regular interval, all thousands of users would get the same code all at once.
Most kids probably thought that it was there computer that had found the code, but really it was out of a large pool of codes we had acquired. This solved the "guilt by association." problem.
So after the code was disbursed widely starting with what would usually be the last people to get a code, it would throw off such fancy analysis tools.
Then after a week or so the "inner circle" of our core group would start using the code, when they were well in the noise of millions of people stealing long distance using the same code.
Anyhow, the point of all of this is to finally see some confirmation that they had developed such software that they were using against us, and that out countermeasures had worked.
What's the license? (Score:2)
The license clearly isn't BSD, but it could, conceivably, be GPL...depending on what the article writer translated into "Hancock's source code and binaries (now up to version 2.0) are available free to noncommercial users from an AT&T Research website. " (In the article there's a link to the source code site...but without knowing the license I'm not looking any further.)
Obligatory (Score:2)
Good one... (Score:1)
Alternate method for accessing the internet (Score:1)
Re:That's the last thing we need! (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Thursday November 01, @10:16AM)
less inflamitory, later it states:
It seems to have been created with slightly better intent (fraud detection, as well as, unfortunately, marketing - your phone company is spyware!).
A tool may not necessarily be bad, but it can have more bad uses than good, and may be been intended for rathern malevolent purposes. The rack comes to mind (although this language certainly isn't in that league).
Re:That's the last thing we need! (Score:2)
Consider, for instance, a baseball bat. Under normal useage, it's used to play a game. Sure, accidents do happen, sometimes erious, but these are minority cases. For the most part, it's all in fun.
Now consider that baseball bat in the hands of a crazed psychopath who thinks YOUR head is a baseball. See the difference?
Re:That's the last thing we need! (Score:2)
(http://mp3bat.com/)
The problem with power is that if it can be abused... It will be.
So it often behooves citizens to keep these tools out of the hands of the government as long as possible.
Not that it will make much difference in the end.
Re:That's the last thing we need! (Score:2)
Anyway - just because it's possible to collect and mine data doesn't mean that the same tools can be used by the "bad" guys too to understand how the technology can be circumvented or made to be misleading.
But a new tool may find new surprising uses too, so there are nothing that can be considered completely bad by this tool.