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Did Russian Hackers Crash Skype?
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kdawson
on Sat Aug 18, 2007 06:59 PM
from the flicking-a-domino dept.
from the flicking-a-domino dept.
An anonymous reader sends us to the www.xakep.ru forum where a poster claims that the worldwide Skype crash was caused by Russian hackers (in Russian). The claim is that they found a local buffer overflow vulnerability caused by sending a long string to the Skype authorization server. You can try Google's beta Russian-to-English translation, but the interesting part is the exploit code, and that's more readable in the original. The Washington Post reports that Skype has denied this rumor.
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The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:4, Informative)
Re:The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.lib.ru/)
Re:The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:4, Informative)
Re:The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.s5h.net/)
Re:The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:4, Informative)
Re:The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The code snippet seems to be wrong (Score:5, Informative)
(http://vimrc-dissection.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday March 24 2007, @07:58AM)
Look (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.mindchild.net/ | Last Journal: Tuesday November 29 2005, @10:16AM)
Re:Look (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.int64.org/)
Really, though. If you need the buffer space, you need the buffer space. Truncation is usually not an option. This is sloppy coding, but not due to lack of using 'n' functions. Resize as needed or reject the request if it gets too big.
Translation (Score:5, Informative)
"The reason for yesterday's downtime of the Skype network is research of Russian crackers, as reported by one of our readers.
While searching for a local buffer overflow, a possibility was found to send a long string to the server, overflowing its buffer and causing the server to go down. Its place is taken by another server from the P2P network, the error arises on it in the same way, and so on. As a result, the entire Skype network refused service for several hours and the developer team was forced to turn off authentication.
Here's the exploit code:"
Re:Translation (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, your version is probably a little better, so I'll contribute with something else. The script is very short too, so here it is: The first page of comments seems to be just the usual bunch of trolls, assholes, and simply useless posts, except for one that claims the code has been shown not to do anything on a dedicated security site [securitylab.ru]. The Skype article on the front page doesn't contain any additional information. The attack looks almost too simple to work, but I wasn't able to find any strong evidence that would suggest that it doesn't, at least not with a few quick searches.
Skype has to change for eavesdropping law (Score:4, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Saturday February 11 2006, @09:16AM)
From what little I know about Skype, the network can cause both parties in a Skype-Skype call to route through a third party, a supernode (this is done to defeat firewall complications). So perhaps they would be able to start routing all USA-international traffic through in-house supernodes where the stream could be tapped. (Anyone want to correct me? Clarify?)
Lost in translation (Score:1)
They hired DoS specialists against their own users (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:They hired DoS specialists against their own us (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.nexusuk.org/)
This is a pretty good example of why centralised network topologies such as Skype, MSN, etc. are a really Bad Idea. It doesn't take much to take down the entire network.
SIP, XMPP, SMTP, etc are all examples of distributed topologies - there is centralised service required(*) for these networks - if one service provider's network falls over it only affects a small number of users rather than taking out *all* the users using that protocol.
(* Yes, they all require the root name servers, but these days the root name server architecture is pretty resillient through the use of technologies such as anycase. Certainly a lot more resillient than any one organisation could hope to achieve for their own propriatory protocols).
They should have been prepared for the case, that whenever their network would be down for whatever reason all clients would try to connect concurrently!
This is not really a question of preparation - it's a question of a sensible network design. The Skype network (and most other propriatory services) is a flawed design _because_ they want to have control of every aspect of the network. Open protocols are generally designed to allow interoperation of independent autonomous networks so an outage of this magnetude is pretty much impossible.
fake? (Score:5, Informative)
It's OK folks! (Score:3, Funny)
(http://goldspider.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday March 18 2005, @10:54AM)
it was Yetis! (Score:1, Funny)
coincidence? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.shambala.net)
Another Soviet Russia comment (Score:2, Funny)
These coding arguments are funny (Score:1)
What really happened !!! (Score:2, Interesting)
a "big Brother" agency, for the purpose of installing "Big Brother" software on both the
server(s) and eventually the clients (because now a trojan is installed) into everyone's
system with a "knock knock" protocol that would activate a "wiretap" to capture your
voice, images, and text. That's why we had to DL that "new copy" they wanted us to have.
Now I know you folks think I'm full if shit... I hope the heck I am but there is now
something the "skype hackers" can check out to see if it's really true. I suppose a really
good reverse engineering effort would find something like that.
Why would the Russkies want to mess up Skype, they use it more then anyone else.
Name Change (Score:1)
(http://thecaelum.blogspot.com/)
Skype and Patriot act maybe not hackers? (Score:1, Interesting)
Just watch the Skype blogs... (Score:3, Informative)
(http://www.public.asu.edu/~corba3/)
It was Microsoft's fault (Score:1)
According to a Register report, "Patch Tuesday update triggered Skype outage".
"Skype has blamed last week's prolonged outage on the effects of Microsoft's Patch Tuesday.
The latest security update from Microsoft required a system reboot. The effect of so many machines rebooting and subsequently trying to log onto the Skype VoIP network triggered system instability and a prolonged outage of almost two days starting on Thursday1. Services have now being restored."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/20/skype_out
Re:In Soviet Russia... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.sanityonline.com/)
Re:Russians ? They don't have good education (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Russians ? They don't have good education (Score:2, Funny)
Re:interesting (Score:1)
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