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Email me for FREE viruses writes "Just how many people would click an ad saying "Is your PC virus-free? Get it infected here!"? According to the security researcher who ran that very ad on Google for 6 months, 0.16% (409 of 259,723) would click on it. 98% of those people were running Windows. The Google Adwords campaign cost $23 in total, which works out to $0.06 per infection had the site actually been malicious."
How many slashdotters (Score:5, Funny)
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Curiosity killed....wait free beer?
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I'm not paranoid!! They are out to get me!!
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IE 6.0 286
IE 7.0 48
Safari (419.3) 1
Opera 9.01 1
Opera 9.10 1
Firefox 1.0 7
Firefox 1.5.0.7 9
Firefox 1.5.0.8 2
Firefox 1.5.0.9 3
Firefox 2.0 3
Firefox 2.0.0.1 6
Firefox 2.0.0.2 1
Firefox 2.0.0.3 21
SeaMonkey 1.1 2
AdsBot-Google 24
Total 416
I think I was the Safari user. (Score:3, Interesting)
I wonder how many of the IE hits are from ad-clicking bots pretending to be IE. I think those things do some amount of random ad poking, to hide their tracks.
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It's hardly a surprise (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:It's hardly a surprise (Score:5, Funny)
Consider your average spyware/virus akin to chlamydia or syph, while the really nasty stuff is more like aids/herpes...
Granted, you can't reformat your body and get rid of it, but if you consider a reformat more along the lines of reincarnation...
Time for a crusade! (Score:3, Funny)
We need to go on a crusade to teach people how to surf porn safely, such as avoiding using a firewall on a microsoftie, but to make sure you have a hardened system first!
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Re:It's hardly a surprise (Score:5, Insightful)
Worst-case for a virus-infected windows-machine ? Complete reinstallation. A day lost, hell make it "toss away $1000 machine".
Worst-case for std ? Death.
Not really comparable.
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it is possible that this would be worse than death for some (unlikely, but possible)
Yes, they are comparable. (Score:3, Interesting)
Worse than reinstall: Having your private records emailed to others
Especially if your private records are government espionage records. Say your machine had a document you were preparing for your superiors detailing activities of some of your undercover intelligence operatives in foreign countries. Say the computer infection sent that information out. Worst case under this scenario: death of your agents, and death of your fellow citizens as t
Have phun with adwords web logs... (Score:2)
Hmmm, interesting. Wanna have some phun? Search for some offensive and/or funny phrase, and if ads come up, clickety away! (Hint: work brand names into your query... However, for some reason, word plays on Wii don't give the expected results... No ads,
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http://www.cashncarrion.co.uk/products/16064/682/ [cashncarrion.co.uk]
(No I'm not affiliated with them)
Sad... (Score:4, Funny)
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Badsense (Score:5, Funny)
Free boobies for all! [wikipedia.org]
Cute booby chicks for your delectation! aff
en.wikipedia.org
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The sad thing is that using something more enticing like "Free boobs this way" would send millions of clueless Joe Windowses your way...
I can see the advert now:-
Free boobies for all! [wikipedia.org]
Cute booby chicks for your delectation! aff
en.wikipedia.org
Don't forget the penduline tits [wikipedia.org]! And of course for those with more, erm, "eccentric" tastes, there's also tits of the bearded [wikipedia.org] variety...
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And of course, no *nix users would EVER do that.....
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Luckily I was never questioned about the matter and by the time most people caught on, Antivirus definitions were updated to detect the Sub7 stub.
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0,16% (Score:5, Insightful)
Underserved group (Score:5, Interesting)
At first I thought the same thing, just random misclicks. But then it hit me, there are a large number of users on the internet that don't have the know-how to install a virus on a computer of someone they hate, like an uppity coworker.
Imagine a bussiness model that would allow anyone to simply 1-click and install a virus (not a feature, those are patentable). Revenue would be generated with advertisments downloaded by the trojan, that would popup at random times on the victims computer. In essence, the victim would have to pay for the service. Brilliant!
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<user> I have Norton. My computer is now immune to all viruses.
(one week later)
<user> I have a virus, can you fix it?
I've seen people many times think that because they had Norton or McAfee, that they could do whatever they want without having to worry about getting a virus and act reckless. Open every attachment they get in email, downloading and running random
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This is why people should stop using windows!
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or cache pre-fetch (Score:5, Interesting)
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If people get into trouble because of clumsiness, that's still a valid sample. And if, like Microsoft, you chase any desktop market including the clumsy desktop market, you can't claim that security failures which exploit clumsies somehow don't count.
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Well, it means that 0.16% are idiots who can read. Unknown hordes of idiots can't read or don't use computers.
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statistics (Score:3, Interesting)
the poster makes it sound as if the conclusion from the statistic is something like "oh my god, windows users are sooo dumb". but also quoting the percentage of all users using windows would reveal a prior probability of something in the 90s already. so, assuming that the "experiment" has an error greater 0, the deviation between the prior probability and 98% has almost no significance...
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Not exactly. (Score:5, Insightful)
Not exactly.
$0.06 per infection attempt, which is obviously not the same thing.
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You wouldn't like when Windows users call your favorite distro totally user-unfriendly, unusable as a desktop system, or good for nothing more that a toy to hack in your free time.
It's the same thing when people bend the truth of Windows to fit their little propaganda and misfit elitism.
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But keep in mind that these people are virtually ALL running Windows and they just clicked a ad which promised to install malware on their computers.
They arent the brightest cookies in the jar.
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But keep in mind that these people are virtually ALL running Windows and they just clicked a ad which promised to install malware on their computers.
They arent the brightest cookies in the jar.
You have no way of knowing what they thought when clicking this.
First of all, this is just a mind trick. Many people would read this ad in a hurry as an ad for antivirus software. The fact that it said "click here to infect your pc" doesn't make the ad more dangerous than if it said otherwise.
If you actually read what
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Re:Attempted Infection == Infection (Score:5, Insightful)
And then, if and only if it looks safe, you can use wget http://somesite.someisp.cc/some/long/filename.ext [someisp.cc] to download it for investigation.
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Oh dear. (Score:3, Interesting)
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Browser stats (Score:4, Interesting)
335 - some version of IE
52 - Some version of Firefox
5 - other
That gives Firefox a 15% share.
Tim.
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There should always someone wrecking a good bashing with some plain logic, isn't there.
But boring jokes aside, it brings another topic into descussion. What would be the % of infected systems, if that WOULD be a malicious site.
On a patched up XP or Vista right now, are there active drive-by-downloads you can exploit on IE, Opera, Firefox?
If s
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I heartily agree with the spirit and content of your reply. Browsers are safe if configured properly. PEBKAC is the primary vector for most of this stuff, not a software company. ActiveX was an insecure design, as is
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/online/br owsing_safety.mspx [microsoft.com]
and browse the "Internet Zone," not at "High" as suggested, but with a "Custom" setting
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There's such a huge jump in logic there that it just befuddles me that 'configuring properly' is required to use the internet.
No computer/browser is perfect, but it just makes basic sense to use a computer/browser that starts at a very secure state and allows you to open it up if you want/need. Rather than the other way around.
<bad car analogy> It's like having to put rear view mirrors on your car after you buy it. </bad car analogy>
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Not necessarily. It could also mean that Firefox users are more self-confident and thus have a higher probability of clicking on the link, because they know it can't harm them anyways...
Ha! I was going to suggest that firefox users are more "educated" and less likely to click on a link.
On the whole though I'd assume that there were the roughly same proportion of idiots in each camp
Tim.
Re:Browser stats (Score:4, Interesting)
It might be more interesting (but harder to obtain) a statistic broken down not only by the browser which user is currently using, but also by browser which they usually use. Here an "usual Firefox user currently stuck on IE" might be less likely to click on such a link. But such data can unfortunately not be obtained, short of asking user directly.
Hmmm, and even in that case, the behavior might not be what would be expected. A "usual Firefox user currently stuck on IE" might still click on that link, in order to teach the party who stuck him on IE a lesson... Tricky, tricky...
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And there were no netscape users that clicked although your link gives 12% to netscape too.
The clickthrough stats give 73% to IE6, your link gives 56%
Doesn't really mean much (Score:5, Insightful)
ONLY? (Score:4, Funny)
Next time call it "hot chicks with huge tits want to give you some love virus". I predict a
Why does it matter what OS they were using? (Score:5, Insightful)
You can't write code or design software that will secure "stupid." Firefox and Linux are certainly easier to secure, and they have a better security model, but they aren't idiot proof.
If those folks were using an abacus, they'd probably get their head stuck in it! <G>
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Malicious intent (Score:2, Interesting)
specious argument .. (Score:3)
Without any evidence to the contrary your argument is entirely specious. How do we know they weren't space aliens.
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Idiots ? (Score:2, Insightful)
I would say that people clicking "Click here to check if your PC is virus-free !" are more stupid.
Personally, I wouldn't have clicked the "get infected", but I understand curious people who would because they are confident in their protection and this is kind of joke. When I see "Get your PC infected !", I think "no way, nobody can want this, must be a joke or something".
Of course, being confident in one's protection and using Windows IS stupid...
You pay all this money for AV software.. (Score:3, Interesting)
I wonder if average users of AV software look at their "quarantined files" and do a rough calculation of how much each of them cost..
"Hmm, I paid $60 for AV software this year and I've had a grand total of 4 files quarantined.. that's $12.50 per file."
I guess not, as 99% of people probably have zero files quarantined, not counting the false positives (I know I do).
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That puts my life insurance in perspective. I paid hundreds of dollars for it this year, and I've had a grant total of zero deaths. That' uhmm.. division by zero exception per death, I guess.
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The right one is: Does AV software save more than it costs? Eg, if reimaging a box costs $100, and you've got to fix 50 of them because it spread all around the company and DoSed the network, then paying $60 per year per box(and you should get a MUCH better price than that if you're licensing for 50) is definitely worth it. Sometimes it's something annoying and mostly harmless, but some viruses have really nasty effects. Take Slammer for instance.
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$12.50 x 4 = $50
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This is only a test.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Security "white hats" do things like that you know. All those hits could be FBI agents for all we know.
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testing their AV .. ? (Score:2)
On the other hand it is possible that 100% of Windows users are morons as against 2% for the rest. No one in his right mind would click on a malicious link to test their antivirus/patch status.
As a test, in your work place, set up a power socket with a sign over it that says 'Testing the ELCB [alibaba.com] system, please insert fingers in socket'. Lets see how many you get.
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summing up the numbers.. (Score:2, Interesting)
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For once I have an excuse... (Score:4, Funny)
Microsoft sucks. Users are idiots.
click_me.exe (Score:4, Funny)
the other 5 percent would right click and select open.
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small number of people (Score:2)
I worked with a guy... (Score:5, Interesting)
He says, "I'm need a new ****ing computer."
I ask why...
"because the one I have now is too slow. I can't use the web because I get hundreds of popups."
I tell him that's a pretty easy thing to fix and off to burn a CD and write up some directions for him.
He tells me that won't work... again, I ask why.
"Because I'm ****ing sick of Microsoft."
I tell him I totally understand that, but that his problem with the pop-ups is pretty easy to fix.
He says, "No, it's not. I click on all the Windows that ask me if I want to remove the viruses from my computer and they are always charging me $20-$40 per virus. I spent almost $400 last week!"
Another computer savvy employee had joined the conversation by this point and we both looked at each other in complete disbelief. The guy wasn't joking...
My PC is still virus-free? (Score:2, Funny)
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Anonymous cowards don't need karma, and first posts don't need high visibility. I see it more as a mod point that got wasted for no good reason than an opportunity to reward someone for posting goatse.