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Decryption Keys For HD-DVD Found, Confirmed

Posted by kdawson on Sat Jan 13, 2007 02:14 PM
from the house-of-cards dept.
kad77 writes "It appears that, despite skepticism, 'muslix64' was the real deal. Starting from a riddle posted on pastebin.com, members on the doom9 forum identified the Title key for the HD-DVD release 'Serenity.' Volume Unique Keys and Title keys for other discs followed within hours, confirming that software HD-DVD players, like any common program, store important run-time data in memory. Here's a link to decryption utility and sleuthing info in the original doom9 forum thread. The Fair Use crowd has won Round One; now how will the industry respond?"
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  • by DiamondGeezer (872237) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:17PM (#17593104) Homepage
    The Fair Use crowd has won Round One; now how will the industry respond?"

    Lawyers. Lots of them.
      • Re:Even simpler (Score:5, Informative)

        by spisska (796395) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:37PM (#17593358)
        Revoke the key. It will happen each time.

        Ahhh. But only the player key can be revoked, not the title key for discs already in the wild. They could use different keys on all subsequently pressed discs of the same title, but that doesn't affect the titles already cracked. And they can't expect to do a recall of cracked titles.

        Or they could revoke the device key for the software player, which would mean the software player gets upgraded with a new key, and newer discs can be cracked using the exact same technique. Otherwise anyone selling software players would be faced with the massive liability of having sold something that doesn't work as advertised.

        Since this technique relies on using the title and/or volume key and not the player key, it will not be so easy to fix through the device key revokation system that's a part of AACS.

        Round one definitely goes to the good guys. And I don't see how it's anything but a matter of time before AACS is as completely broken as CSS is. Even with device key revokation, it's just a cat and mouse game with newer titles and newer devices. And how will the MPAA and the device manufacturers react when people who pay out the nose for players and films are no longer able to use them?

        • by Kjella (173770) on Saturday January 13 2007, @05:21PM (#17595340) Homepage
          Everyone seems to be missing the point. Existing titles are chump change. Just make the next pressing with the new key. The flurry seems to center around release dates anyway, so no future discs will decode on the compromised player.

          Yeah, right. Take a look at the prices for DVD seasons of for example Babylon 5 or Star Trek... they're incredibly expensive even though they're many years old. How much does Disney classics go for again? Besides, it's probably not like pirates are going to announce their player keys, they'll likely just release the titles.

          The sad thing is that it'll work for release groups having decryption keys and pirates getting decrypted versions, while it probably won't work for average consumers who wants to do fair use like back-ups, format shift, non-HDCP screens and so on, because they don't have a disc from the same batch.
        • Re:Even simpler (Score:5, Informative)

          by Tony Hoyle (11698) <tmh@nodomain.org> on Saturday January 13 2007, @06:39PM (#17596130) Homepage
          You can - all the HDDVD and BluRay players have internet connectivity. They can and do download blacklists in 'firmware updates'. Such updates are also pressed into future disks - so you can't even get away with never connecting the player. These can revoke both disk and hardware keys, so you'd have to replace your copy of serenity, or even potentially your TV if the keys for that got revoked.

          The only question is whether they have the guts to do it.
  • by gravesb (967413) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:21PM (#17593150) Homepage
    By admitting DRM is useless and treating customers like clients instead of criminals? Only in my mind, only in my mind....
      • by HTH NE1 (675604) on Saturday January 13 2007, @07:06PM (#17596468)
        Many "customers" act as criminals then bitch and moan when they're being treated as such.

        Only because exercising fair use is acting like a criminal. Except its only acting; it isn't being.

        The actions of a criminal can also be the actions of a law-abiding citizen legally exercising his rights. It is to what ends the acts are performed that (are supposed to) define them as criminal.

        I can swing my fists in the air as long as I like as long as I don't hit your nose. It's bad laws like the DMCA that would make swinging my fists in the privacy of my single-occupancy home a crime.
      • "What is needed is a DRM that is advanced enough to be flexible enough to allow all "fair use" while curtailing piracy."

        DRM will never be this advanced, because this proposal is fundamentally impossible, because it implies logically inconsistent outcomes. Either I can copy no part of the video for any reason, or I can copy some part of the video (no matter how small) for any reason. If I can copy any part, even screenshot by screenshot, for any reason, I can re-assemble it outside the player and the DRM is therefore useless. If I can't, fair use is violated.

        DRM, in all it's manifold and perverted forms, can go to hell.
  • Wait!!! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sulli (195030) * on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:38PM (#17593394) Journal
    Don't release the crack until after the standard is settled! Now all the studios will go Blu-Ray only.
  • by Opportunist (166417) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:51PM (#17593556)
    Quite simple. The content industry will simply dump the format, after all, there's an alternative. Now it's high time to show that BluRay is just as "consumer friendly" and break it for good, so there is no alternative left, and if the studios want to get their content to the customer, they have to accept that DRM is useless in their strife to protect their rights.

    The point is to create as much damage as possible, so the industry learns that the only one hurt by DRM are they themselves. Revoked keys mean more work, more expense, more hassle and dissatisfied customers who have to jump the hoops. This will in turn create more awareness for DRM and the problems it creates.

    We have to teach the studios that DRM is a failure. That it only generates hassle and problems for their paying customer and is no barriere or even a deterrent for the pirates. For this, the customer has to be the one hurt, too. Learn the easy or the hard way, learn about DRM by investigating or by having your tools stop working.

    Yes, that's not the usual gentle way of teaching. But appearantly some people don't learn 'fore it starts to hurt.
  • Industry response? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:56PM (#17593604)

    The Fair Use crowd has won Round One; now how will the industry respond?

    It will send in a few lawyers. After a while, they will realise that their impact is negligible in the grand scheme of things: the DRM will continue to deter casual copying to some extent, but will continue to be impotent in preventing anyone determined to make a copy and willing to spend a little time on the 'net to find out how (or download a pre-ripped version).

    Meanwhile, genuine customers will get seriously annoyed at the fact that DRM in HD-world has now moved beyond a minor inconvenience or ethical question as it was with things like DVDs, and into the realms of seriously impeding their enjoyment of the product they have legally purchased. A consumer backlash will result, with the effect that DRM becomes a "dirty word" 2-3 years from now, and distributors drop heavily-encumbered formats and go back to what works: a mostly hands-off scheme that's enough to deter casual copying by schoolkids but nothing that risks seriously impacting the marketability of their merchandise.

    On the same sort of time scales, on-line distribution will reach a critical mass, and the movie distributors will adopt a second, parallel strategy where cheap, legal, unencumbered downloads are the norm. They will make their profit from on-line users through many small incomes, rather than the larger one-offs represented by (HD-)DVD purchases today. This will render illegal distribution channels mostly irrelevant, and the damage due to illegal copying will revert to being low-level noise as it mostly was before they started their current crusade anyway.

    Hey, it's a new year and everyone else is making crystal ball predictions. Can't I have mine, too? :-)

  • by KonoWatakushi (910213) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:59PM (#17593648)
    New disks can be pressed with new keys, and the compromised software player will have it's key revoked. As such, this is not a generally useful solution. AACS remains secure, and at best, we may see individual keys available for certain pressings of certain discs. This approach will never provide general playback as DeCSS does.

    However, it is my understanding that the decryption process can be done by the TPM; once this is supported, the problem will be much more difficult. Make no mistake, the battle has only just begun. Before long, software based attacks may be rendered impossible.
  • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:59PM (#17593650)
    Damn! I think there must be at least 3 different "scene releases" of Serenity in various flavors of high-def by now (1080i mpeg2 cropped to 16:9, 1080i mpeg2 OAR, 1080i h264 and 25fps OAR) So now there will yet another version floating around the net soon. These greedy pirates, always double-dipping or worse to try and get people to download the same movie multiple times!
  • /. paradise (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:01PM (#17593670)
    1. Porn goes for HD-DVD
    2. HD-DVD encryption is broken
    3. The Pirate Bay will buy a country

    Put them together and you have pirated porn in HD. Note to self: add KY Jelly and a pack of kleenex to the shopping list.
  • by zappepcs (820751) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:04PM (#17593712) Journal
    comedy awards? This is hilarious. Spending all that money on DRM, implementing new media, only to have the encryption cracked before launch day (practically) must be like trying to nail jello to the wall using $100,000 nails. (Has Mythbusters tried nailing jello to a wall yet?)

    The real question is not how they will respond, but when will they learn?
  • youtube demo removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 1 a bee (817783) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:18PM (#17593852)
    muslix64's youtube demo [youtube.com] linked from the original post has since been removed. Instead the page seems to claim that the content of his video is somehow owned by Warner Bros.:

    This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. because its content was used without permission.
    Sad, but funny...
  • Analog Hole (Score:5, Insightful)

    by alexgieg (948359) <alexgieg@gmail.com> on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:32PM (#17594036) Homepage
    Even if they one day develop a perfect DRM scheme full of unbreakable secure paths, it won't be possible to avoid someone simply removing the actual LCD screen, wiring the signals instructing which pixels should turn on and off to a 3rd party device, and recording the unencrypted content in raw format.

    No piracy is being stopped by these means. They're and will always be utterly useless.
  • Hash information (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ougarou (976289) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:54PM (#17594292) Homepage
    For when any of these services get killed, let the record state that:
    MD5(BackupHDDVD.zip)= 484a73b61fb795d84e11d72614f77db0
    SHA1(BackupHDDVD .zip)= c9f28f76ff4f1a8bfe74fa963466e8483da95eff
    SHA512(B ackupHDDVD.zip)= 661a12808e64ec516b1eb9e493bf5de4a08223f2ee4258735d aa6a382a1d2e1fbe4b732bebd4133e5af0d968c0904d310f73 40e63edab7b69e1948b08
    3dd2617
    ED2K(BackupHDDVD.z ip)= 4860e9248663d52dc47bfc98d61ec6d7
    GNUNET(BackupHDD VD.zip)= COD1504ECJM52QOUN7I97FQTSIG848VITP15GSQTL9L3GAGT5O FRSIRJ5FLT84PUBBODIQ60I16J23RJ83J3TMLNMQF1II5GGFEI C5O.COTARKV5PLT8MFC6E
    BDF83IMEJI74A3H0QNTGMEGDS6P PO6AEFF75S439R2T731ODI37MP0HM3TQ27266N6FMK4PS8SDLC KNE3UIPD8
  • Sesame open .. (Score:5, Informative)

    by AftanGustur (7715) on Saturday January 13 2007, @10:07PM (#17598250) Homepage
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    • by Wonko the Sane (25252) * <wts42@yahoo.com> on Saturday January 13 2007, @02:41PM (#17593442) Homepage Journal

      Not every use of a copyrighted work is fair. BackupHDDVD is just as useful to pirates.
      or to people who have monitors capable of displaying full resolution HD content, but are not permitted to because of a lack of HDCP

      or people who want to watch movies they bought on their mythtv system

      or people who like to buy movies and watch them, but don't run windows
    • by MostAwesomeDude (980382) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:11PM (#17593762) Homepage
      Um, as The Pirate Bay has demonstrated already, there are three wrong with your supposition. First off, ICANN does not and will not revoke domain names at the behest of the government. As long as Doom9 has backbone (and this hasn't been their first time in this type of situation), they're not gonna crumple.

      The second thing is that they might not be located in the USA. The whois dossier shows that the domain was registered by (anonymous) proxy, and it's entirely possible that he's not American. If his servers are physically located outside of the USA, then he can't be legally threatened by civil suits, and he's not subject to DMCA. (However, this is a hypothetical, and since he refuses to host DeCSS, it is my guess that he is somewhere in the USA.)

      The third thing is that the website is http://www.doom9.org/ [doom9.org] , not doom9.com.
    • by cdrudge (68377) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:17PM (#17593844) Homepage
      Doom9.com: "Hello Microsoft. We are a domain squatter. We have no idea what you are talking about. Besides. We run Linux."

      Microsoft: "Crap. We sued the wrong company. Refile for doom9.NET"

      Doom9.net: "Go fly a kite. We run Linux as well so you have no authorization to do an 'audit'. And go fuck yourself with the DMCA. US laws don't apply in England."

      Microsoft: "Shit. Wait. Why the hell do we care if HD DVD are cracked. That's the MPAA's problem."

        • by SanityInAnarchy (655584) <ninja@slaphack.com> on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:42PM (#17594152) Journal
          What about the early adopters, who bought high-end video cards without HDCP, or very nice HDTVs, also witohut HDCP? They now have to pray that somebody (Sony?) sees the light and doesn't trip the "artificially cripple old HDTVs" flag.

          So, because the MPAA is afraid of an attack that isn't feasable, and may never be, they are forcing early to buy new hardware (for no good reason). I can't help but wonder if this wasn't a simple money grab -- force everyone to upgrade so they pay you twice for the same hardware.
        • Re:Blu-Ray? (Score:5, Informative)

          by baadger (764884) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:55PM (#17594304)
          Truth is, you can't. You just can't record a signal of 1920 x 1080 pixel times 12 bit per pixel times 60 frames per second on a harddisk

          Yes, surely you can. For a start it's approximately 30 frames a second (it's 60 fields a second). That gives you a stream of:

          (1920 * 1080 * 12 * 30) / (1024*1024) = ~ 712 Mib/s (megabits per second) or
          about 89 MiB/s.

          I would have though an array of high speed reasonably standard disk drives could handle that quite easily, after all consumer SATA drives have a theoretical 1.5 Gib/s interface.
            • Re:Blu-Ray? (Score:5, Informative)

              by grimwell (141031) on Saturday January 13 2007, @05:28PM (#17595422)
              Aye, my MythTV backend with the disk dump has two 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives [newegg.com] in a RAID 0 array. The frontend has three HDTV capture cards(two HD-5500 [pchdtv.com] & one HD-3000). A Lowly 100mbps full-duplex network link between the two boxes.

              I'm able to record three HD streams at once via nfs(nfs ver3, ver4 cause kernel panic under that load). Playback of one of the three streams while it is being recorded isn't do-able but recording two and watching an earlier(yet to be transcoded) one all at the same time works.

              An hour of 1080i is a little shy of 8.5GB. The network link is the bottleneck in my setup, the disk array handles the task without a problem.
        • Re:Blu-Ray? (Score:5, Informative)

          by tjansen (2845) on Saturday January 13 2007, @03:56PM (#17594314) Homepage
          Actually you can already buy DVI capturing cards capable of recoding 1600x1200x60:
          http://www.fi-llc.com/boards/Products/AccuStream17 0.php [fi-llc.com]
          Real-time recoding of HDTV videos is not that far away on consumer PCs either. I doubt that it would be a problem in 5 years.

          So if there was no HDCP, and there was no way to get the compressed signal, capturing the data would become a viable option.