How Google Manages Click Fraud
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on Wed Jul 26, 2006 06:41 AM
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Finin writes "In February 2005, Google was sued by Lane's Gifts & Collectibles in a class-action lawsuit over click fraud. The company alleged that Google had been improperly billing for pay-per-click ads that were not viewed by legitimate potential customers. As part of a settlement earlier this year, Google agreed to have an independent expert examine their click fraud detection methods, policies, and procedures and make a determination of whether or not they were reasonable measures to protect advertisers. The report of the expert, NYU Information Systems Professor Alexander Tuzhilin (a Professor of Information Systems at NYU), is now available." Update 07/26/2006 at 12:52 GMT by SM: Fixed the link to Tuzhilin's report.
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real link to report (Score:5, Informative)
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/pdf/Tuzhilin_Repor
Re:real link to report (Score:5, Informative)
(http://ostermiller.org/ | Last Journal: Friday February 17 2006, @11:59AM)
- OptiRex [webmasterworld.com]
Statistics about click fraud shown to Adwords user (Score:5, Informative)
(http://ostermiller.org/ | Last Journal: Friday February 17 2006, @11:59AM)
Re:Statistics about click fraud shown to Adwords u (Score:5, Insightful)
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Jonah HEX
Enron (Score:3, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Saturday October 14 2006, @08:12AM)
How is Google diferent that the big "E"?
Re:Enron (Score:5, Funny)
(http://zaphodforpresident.com/)
How is Google diferent that the big "E"?
Branding. For example, Google's famous motto is: "don't be evil". If memory serves, Enron's less-famous motto was: "Ken Lay needs a new boat".
Re:Enron (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://plan99.net/~mike/)
Google make pots of money because AdWords does result in a good return on investment relative to other forms of advertising.
Consider this. Imagine a fictional company that spends $10,000/month with Google on advertising, and is completely happy with the service because it results in lots of leads and sales. So it is actually profitable to spend this money. There are many companies in exactly this situation. Does it matter if 90% of clicks are fraudulent (which is probably not going to happen unless you are being deliberately targetted by a competitor)? If you are still getting a great ROI then no it doesn't matter. The invalid clicks are just noise.
Google does produce something valuable if not physical - it produces a ton of people viewing websites who then go onto buy things. Same as any form of advertising. Except the relevance of AdWords makes it more valuable than most.
There is no report (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.hesperia-mud.org/)
Rather it is the answer to the judge and mentions (2 or 3 times, shortly) the report of the expert. All the meat that is to be found in the PDF is that the report is conclusive that Google does all it can reasonably to combat click fraud.
The PDF is interesting only if you're interested in legal stuff...
My 0.02
Link Fraud (Score:4, Informative)
404 - File Not Found
From the objections_response (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.drivesentinel.co.uk/)
"The California attorneys take the position that the damages are 200 times $90 million, or 18 billion, which is more revenuse than google has received in its entire existance"
You just have to hand it to lawyers, they'll try anything.
Re:From the objections_response (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.fantasticdamage.com/)
That's the basic logic, I believe.
Billboards (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://netapps.com.au/)
Advertisers will pay for a billboard without any guarantee from the advertising company about how many people will drive past the sign, how many of those will read it, how many will take the information in and act on it. The client is assumed to be taking a risk in that regard.
Over time people decide for themselves whether a particular type of advertising is working for them. If the business keeps coming in why should there be a need for this type of analysis?
Re:Billboards (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.jasonlefkowitz.net/)
But "outdoor advertising" firms make no representations that they can measure these things. You know what you're getting when you buy space on a billboard. AdWords is different because Google sells it with claims that they can track these things (indeed, they bill you based on the results of that tracking). If Google's click tracking is inaccurate, you aren't getting what you thought you were getting. That's the difference.
Re:Billboards (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't think many people expect every adwords click to result in a sale for the advertiser. Instead, people just check to see whether there's a correlation between 'more adwords clicks' and 'more sales'. If 100 adwords clicks produce 30 additional sales, you can say that the adwords are 30% effective. Then it's up to you to decide whether those 30 additional sales are worth the cost of those 100 clicks. If so, you can write 70% of their adwords fee off as a cost of doing business. If not, you can close your adwords account, or lower the amount you're willing to pay per click.
If Google was padding its numbers, people would see lower return rates from their adwords accounts. Those people would then be less willing to pay for the service. They wouldn't expand their accounts to cover other words.
In other words, there's already a feedback mechanism that punishes Google for any loss of efficiency in its adwords program, and rewards Google for providing the best results it can.
Re:Billboards (Score:4, Informative)
I worked in advertising for over a decade and your statement is totally false. These days EVERY advertising medium being pitched to a client MUST contain all kinds of analytical data backing it up, and this includes billboards. Locations, lighting, traffic patterns, etc, etc.
And I'm sure that some outdoor media companies have their own internal research demonstrating that some locations feature superior demographics (ie, this road is between the corporate HQs and the wealthy suburbs and gets seen by all the wealthy commuters).
Thinking about stuff (Score:3, Interesting)
i want my reparations (Score:1)
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Ah.. (Score:1)
Academic community (Score:2, Insightful)
community to do this study.
The most the study says is that the algorithms the Google
uses are good to detect click fraud. It does not give any clue on
how much fraud is not detected by the algorithms.
do not think much of click fraud detection system (Score:5, Interesting)
A good read actually - Googles Omnibus Response... (Score:4, Informative)
It is basically a response to the objections of a grand total of 51 people in "the class". An incredibly small number of objections.
From the document:
"The assertion that Google has done nothing wrong was echoed by advertisers that opted out of the settlement."
"Unlike Retailers, Pay per click advertisers can limit the money risked for each click and for each day...Businesses should treat pay-per-click advertising like any other advertising...If it's costing more to advertise than your resulting profit, STOP ADVERTISING."
And, regarding the "click fraud detection", there is only a small portion of this document that mentions the review process by Dr. Tuzhilin. It does mention that the click fraud detection methods by Google were confirmed to be reasonable.
And finally, it was interesting to see read the jabs taken at the lawyers who brought the class action lawsuit to begin with...and the copy-cat cases from California, obviously a bunch of ambulance chasers.
Google Screws p2pnet.net out of its Share (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.freelink.cx/)
You can read about it at http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9086 [p2pnet.net] . This has happened not only to Jon Newton but also to many other small website owners. I am a Geek who used to love using Google, but now that Google has become big, it is doing what most other big companies do - screw the small guy and just walk away. Needless to say, I use alternative search engines instead.
Headline redundant! (Score:1)
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Redundancy Police,
Department of Redundancy Department
Speaking as someone who has worked on anti-fraud (Score:2)
Looks like I gave out the secret sauce.
So, a professor huh? He forgot to spellcheck. (Score:1)
Either that, or I need to catch up on my knowledge of the Internet.
He claims that "Computing devises attached to the Internet can exchange data of various types..."
Computing devises???
I am sorry, I just had to comment on this. It is not every day that Computer Science professors misspell devices :)
The conclusion (Score:1)
Click Validation will be required soon (Score:1, Insightful)
When it comes Truly validating Paid Clicks from any search engine, there are some critical points that you are missing and need to pay attention to.
This form of advertising is in its infancy and as we progress to an industry standard of Validating this space please remember the following:
1. Do you really think that it is in Google's Best Interest or in the Business plan to actively seek out invalid clicks or click fraud?
2. Every other advertising form in the Media has a 3rd party Validator, Checking the data on behalf of the advertiser. Television has Nielsen, Radio has Arbitron, etc. Even Accounting has SOX. Presently, only the Search Engine is the final arbitrator of credits or refunds. The industry needs to progress to this model eventually to give PPC advertisers peace of mind.
3. The search engine can only see click information up to the point where the ad is clicked- there are other attributes once the click goes into your sight (behavior wise) that the search engine cannot see but the Advertiser has data for. This gap needs to be reconciled by both parties.
Another alternative if this is not reasonable is to continue to let the bank balance your checkbook without checking it yourself.
Re:What Microsoft should learn from Google... (Score:2)
Whereas MS (and all of us forced to use it's OS) knows that if any 3rd party expert devs looked at their code in any detail, they'd probably be horrified. I'm sure they already know that their code is spaghetti, why prove it to the world?