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Sophos Reveals Latest Spam-Relaying Countries

Posted by Hemos on Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:14 AM
from the spam-ham dept.
An anonymous reader writes "For the first time in more than two years, the United States has failed to make inroads into its spam-relaying problem. The U.S. remains stuck at the top of the chart and is the source of 23.2 percent of the world's spam. Its closest rivals are China and South Korea, although both of these nations have managed to reduce their statistics since Q1 2006. The vast majority of this spam is relayed by 'zombies,' also known as botnet computers."
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  • I'm not sure why they divide by country. Are they implying that the laws and regulations of these companies should be stricter? Is this some sort of international contest to see who can restrict the rights of its internet users the fastest? The fact is that these nations are just relaying the spam. They might not be the origin of the spam so it's not like targeting a nationality will help.

    Furthermore, these percentages don't appear to be normalized in any way. Does the United States contain more than 23% of the world's internet traffic? Probably. What about the sheer number of IPs assigned to citizens? Again, probably more than 23% of the world's total user population. Even if it isn't that high, it'd still show that countries like China are doing ok relative to the sheer number of users they have. I think this study only showed that spam is directly proportionate to internet usage. And nothing more.

    Logically, you would divide by source or company or--better yet--ISP. I think the penalties should come from the companies that make money providing the internet service to the sources of the spam. Even if it's a bot or open relay for spam, the ISP should investigate it and shut it down. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Cox & Comcast show up on that list as they are so unbelievably careless.

    I think laws against the internet service providers are in order to force this but it's difficult to track. That's why Sophos should publish names of internet service providers and drag them through the mud, I don't care about countries. And how about making the penalty for the ISP a bit tougher as in you get one warning about a particular user and then you're restricted from providing internet service?

    In the end, you have to ask yourself--do we really want to make this a responsibility of all governments? I think the answer is 'no' considering that they can always just open up some operation in another nation and find an ISP dying for cash. Then you have to chase them there.
  • Deep Throat Knows (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ackthpt (218170) * on Monday July 24 2006, @11:22AM (#15770340)
    (http://www.dragonswest.com/ | Last Journal: Monday November 05, @07:35PM)

    "Follow the money"

    What's so hard here? The US has pushed for having banks and financial service companies to be more open with governments on who is doing what with transactions.

    There's always the content, too. Just look in the emails and they have telephone numbers, web sites, the various means of seeing what these scumbags have to offer and how to contact them.

    Educating the public is failing. Why? How many public service ads have you seen advising people how to protect themselves from being scammed, preventing identity theft, etc.? I've seen none. I see private ads OF the voice overs of the big dude with the girl's voice, where his identity has been stolen, I think it was for a paper shreader of all things.

    Sophos must be with the terrorists as they are not proclaiming victory in the war on terror. Enough has been made of the suspicion (has anything been proved?) that terrorists raise funds this way. I wouldn't put it past them, but I also wouldn't put it past some russian teenagers with limited career potential in Putin's New And Improved USSR.

  • No wonder (Score:5, Funny)

    by traveller.ct (958378) on Monday July 24 2006, @11:25AM (#15770364)
    No wonder the tubes are jammed.
    • Re:No wonder by Krojack (Score:1) Monday July 24 2006, @12:45PM
    • Re:No wonder by Rallion (Score:2) Monday July 24 2006, @03:59PM
  • ...is how many of the zombie systems are actually deliberatly set up by the owner. Not some accidental "gone to the wrong web site" setup, but some "I'm gonna make some bucks serving spam" and then claiming they didn't know they were infected.
  • I've often wondered... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Osrin (599427) * on Monday July 24 2006, @11:29AM (#15770390)
    (http://osrin.net/)
    ... if you just opened up port 25 on EVERY machine and put some dummy SMTP recieve code behind it that did nothing else other than accept mail and then discard it, could we make it 500 million times harded for spammers to find an active and working open relay?
    • We can do better than that! (Score:5, Informative)

      by jd (1658) <imipak AT yahoo DOT com> on Monday July 24 2006, @12:25PM (#15770838)
      (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday November 03, @04:58AM)
      TCP is based on packet acknowledgement and it is very doubtful that spammers have thought to check their software for deadlocks or timeouts. Instead of dumping the data, just have the connection hang after it is fully established, or send deliberately malformed acknowledgement packets. The idea here is to try and crash the zombie by either running it out of resources or giving it replies it can't handle.


      Alternatively, if the spammer/zombie computer has port 25 open itself, have a netfilter rule that rewrites the destination address to that of the sender, increases the TTL, and sends the packets back in duplicate. Again, this is a resource-draining scheme. If it's an open relay, it'll get the spam and resend it. I believe the hop count for SMTP is something like 30 and each packet will go two ways along the wire, so it'll take 2^31 as much bandwidth overall, if a sufficiently large number of users set up this kind of loopback. Companies that simply don't care if their machines are zombies will suddenly notice a degradation of their networks but any packet monitoring they do will show all of the packets to have the IP addresses of their machines for both source and destination. At least some will zombie detox to save their sanity.

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    • Re:I've often wondered... by cswiger2005 (Score:2) Monday July 24 2006, @01:12PM
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  • Imagine... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by fragmentate (908035) * on Monday July 24 2006, @11:30AM (#15770403)
    (http://www.daevin.org/ | Last Journal: Friday September 22 2006, @12:53PM)

    ...if all ISPs simultaneously switched SMTP to another port... At least the existing "bugs" (as in malicious code) would break immediately.

    Sadly, any trick (even as drastic as I've suggested) would only be temporary. People still click on random .exe files (and scripts) as fast as they come in. Any Dilbert, South Park, or Pokemon screensaver will be clicked on my some nitwit. I see the forum posts about how certain screensavers don't work. Well, of course they don't -- they're not screensavers, they're little servers designed to relay spam.

    Given the vast numbers of idiots, and amateurs online here in the U.S., of course we're in the lead. (I have two teens -- both of them have clicked on evil .exe's -- firing off malicious code warnings on the Windows machines).

    Educating the gajillion newly techno-blessed is the only way to get this under control.

    How hard is it to understand, "If a stranger gives you an apple -- DON'T EAT IT!"

  • Translation: (Score:1, Redundant)

    "The United States has the world's largest number of unsecured Windows machines, therefore making it painfully easy for anyone to become a spam king from the comfort of their own home by creating their own botnet."

    Ja ne!
  • by supabeast! (84658) on Monday July 24 2006, @11:32AM (#15770419)
    At first I was looking at the numbers and wondering if Americans just have so many more Windows machines than the rest of the big relays out there, but once the numbers get into the single digits (everything after the US and China) I quickly realized that most of the people in those nations are probably using the same OS - Windows - as people in the US. So is it simply that the US comes out on top because we have so damned many computers - as opposed to other nations where they're sometimes uncommon in households and people use internet cafes? Or is it not a PCs-per-capita issue, but an issue of people in the USA simply being to stupid/lazy/etc. to secure their Windows machines? If the former is the case, we're in for some nasty spam as PCs per capita increase, and there are ever more systems begging to be infected. If the latter case is true, what will it take to finally get Windows users to start securing their Windows boxes?
  • pump n dump scams (Score:1, Redundant)

    by digitaldc (879047) * on Monday July 24 2006, @11:32AM (#15770420)
    And I thought pump & dump scams were primarily concocted around 2am at Frat parties.

    Sophos recommends that computer users ensure they keep their security software up-to-date, as well as using a properly configured firewall and installing the latest operating system security patches.
    ----How long, how long must we sing this song?
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  • I for one... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Siberwulf (921893) on Monday July 24 2006, @11:47AM (#15770526)
    As impractical as it might be, I, being a software developer think the best way to go about removing this crap isn't on the receiving end. It won't be fixed by filters. It won't be fixed by blockers. The way to fix it is through putting some sort of tax, fee, whatever you might have it, on email getting sent.

    Before you flip out and throw the "OMGOOSES MY FREEDOM" argument around, answer me this:

    If you were being sent text messages to your cellphone, and being charged ten cents per text message, how long would you tolerate that?

    The reason nothing is being done to combat this is due to the fact that when people spend hours cleaning off spam, they aren't even thinkinga bout the "Time = Money" equation. If they were, I think they'd be pretty hot about getting the senders punished.
  • Spam Sources (Score:5, Informative)

    My experience is that around 60-75% of the spam I receive comes from China. On my home mail server I finally broke down and started blocking the worst offending subnets and the amount of spam I received dropped dramatically. There is a RBL for China, cn.blackhole.us, or a combination of China and Korea (cn-kr.blackhole.us), though these are no longer listed and will likely disappear soon.

    I also use several other RBLs which have helped a lot.

    I also decided to add the worst offending subnets in China as rules for my firewall to block. The worst offending subnet is 221.208.208.x where my firewall reports an almost constant barrage of IM spam, and from what I've read, this subnet has been a problem for years.

    For your own blocking, the following script will get all the subnets used by China (or any other country you're interested in, just change $ctry):

    #!/usr/bin/perl $ctry = shift || 'cn'; $_ = `wget -O - http://www.apnic.net/apnic-bin/ipv4-by-country.pl? country=$ctry [apnic.net]`; print join "\n", /([0-9\.]+\/[0-9]+)/g;

    At work, where I cannot do this, most of my spam is also received from China.

    Out of the rest of the spam I receive, the US is actually pretty far down on the list of sources, though still much higher than places like the UK, Germany or France. The rest seems to come from places like Poland, Romania and Estonia.
  • Spamopoly (Score:1)

    by burdicda (145830) on Monday July 24 2006, @11:55AM (#15770586)
    unless US home users take action to secure their computers and put a halt to the zombie PC problem

    Whoa.....

    It's US home users fault that a convicted monopoly was not prosecuted ???

    Really ?
    I just wonder how the spam problem statistic would look if suddenly there was a linux client in every single computer in America
    where there now stands Windows. (I mean immediately as in the flick of a light switch)
    • Re:Spamopoly by WilliamSChips (Score:1) Monday July 24 2006, @03:29PM
      • Re:Spamopoly by Kelnor (Score:1) Tuesday July 25 2006, @04:58AM
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  • In other news.. (Score:2)

    by COMON$ (806135) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:01PM (#15770622)
    (Last Journal: Friday June 30 2006, @10:04PM)
    America was found to have the highest number of zombies and bots per capita....
  • Eliminate the zombies (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Dadoo (899435) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:01PM (#15770629)
    (Last Journal: Friday June 16 2006, @05:29PM)
    I haven't been keeping up on my anti-spam measures, lately, so I'm not sure if this has been considered, yet. Wouldn't it be possible to simply add a DNS record that allows a mail server to verify that the machine trying to send it mail is authorized to do so, for that domain?

    A machine that supports it could ask the sending domain "Is this machine allowed to send email on your behalf?" The sending domain could simply answer "yes" or "no". That would immediately eliminate all the zombies, for those people who wanted to upgrade their DNS and mail software. It would also be backward compatible for people who couldn't. The best part is that could be controlled by the domain administrators, rather than some government agency or black hole list.

    • Re:Eliminate the zombies by thewils (Score:1) Monday July 24 2006, @12:09PM
    • Re:Eliminate the zombies (Score:4, Interesting)

      by vux984 (928602) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:14PM (#15770740)
      It already exists, its called an SPF record. Its been around for years now and 95% of domains don't have one.

      There is also nothing stopping the spammers from using SPF, and they do. In fact, in many surveys the spammers are registering domains and using SPF *more* than legitimate users are. SPF does mitigate some spoofing issues, but that's about it.

      On its own its proven worthless. As part of more cohesive anti-spam strategy it might prove to have some value.
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  • What a Poorly Written Article (Score:2, Insightful)

    by schweitn (802998) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:04PM (#15770647)
    (http://www.nickschweitzer.net/)
    Its articles like these that lament people's basic misunderstanding of statistics. They use percentage of spam sent by countries in order to try to prove that spam is not being reduced in the United States. The problem is that simply relaying a percentage of total spam does not prove or disprove this point. It simply shows whether the US is changing more or less in proportion to other countries. Did the total number of spam messages go up or down? What about the total number of bot nets? The reality is that the total numbers could have gone down, and the US percentage still could have gone up depending on whether other countries went down further than the US. Percentages always add up to 100!
  • Whether it is a zombie, which is not supposed to have an SMTP server at all, or a legitimate mail-server fooled into relaying spam to you, my milter [virtual-estates.net] will black-list it for a few hours after your spam-detectors issue their first verdict against the relay.

    Unlike with most blacklists, though, the damage from a false-positive is merely a delayed, rather than rejected (or, worse, dropped) message...

  • by DigitalRaptor (815681) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:05PM (#15770654)
    (http://brianallen.isagenix.com/)
    If the ISP's implemented a system whereby port 25 was closed and the average John Q. Public had to send mail through it's servers, or something else like GMail, then the vast majority of zombie spam would disappear overnight.

    Then each customer could be limited to __ number of emails each day (perhaps 20). Beyond that they would have to log in and manually re-enable their account for another 20. People regularly exceeding their amount could apply for a higher threshhold.

    A little inconvenient? Yes. More inconvenient than receiving 400 spams a day? I think not.

    • Re:ISP's and Open Ports by P3NIS_CLEAVER (Score:1) Monday July 24 2006, @12:15PM
    • Re:ISP's and Open Ports by Krojack (Score:1) Monday July 24 2006, @12:20PM
    • Re:ISP's and Open Ports by Limburgher (Score:2) Monday July 24 2006, @01:15PM
      • Re:ISP's and Open Ports (Score:4, Insightful)

        by DigitalRaptor (815681) on Monday July 24 2006, @01:45PM (#15771413)
        (http://brianallen.isagenix.com/)
        Who says it has to be one or the other?

        Your mom probably doesn't need to run an email server. Neither does 99% of other ISP users. The far less than 1% (of which I'm included) that need specific ports opened up can do so by working with the ISP.

        That would eliminate 99% of zombie spam right off the bat, without significantly affecting anyone. It may take you 5 minutes on the phone with tech support, but it closes a HUGE whole that is actively exploited by the spammers.

        Bye-bye spam. It also takes a way a LOT of the motivation for creating zombie machines, so bye-bye much of the spyware and viruses (not all, but probably a noticeable amount).

        So we aren't sacrificing freedom for security. We're tolerating a 5 minute phone call for 1% of users so that everyone can enjoy the internet far, far more.

        Well worth it, if you ask me. Absolutely nothing is lost. A whole lot is gained.

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    • Re:ISP's and Open Ports by budgenator (Score:2) Monday July 24 2006, @02:02PM
      • Re:ISP's and Open Ports (Score:4, Insightful)

        by DigitalRaptor (815681) on Monday July 24 2006, @02:16PM (#15771620)
        (http://brianallen.isagenix.com/)
        The internet is very analogous to the highway system in most countries. Commercial drivers create increased risk to all drivers on the road, and thus require training and registration for the safety and benefit of everyone involved, including each other.

        The commercial drivers could (and may) complain that it's unfair that they have to go through the hassle of getting licensed and registered, after all, each thinks he is a perfect driver and poses no risk whatsoever. But I think most people would agree regulation of commercial drivers is a good thing and everyone benefits.

        Likewise, those (myself included) wanting to do more than normal with the information super highway would likely complain if we had to take an extra step before being able to do what we want on the internet, such as running a web server or email server. But again, I think the benefits outweight the inconvenience 100 times over. I could call my ISP and be added to their open ports list in 5 minutes (ONCE), but I easily spend 10 minutes A DAY on spam, and often more.

        Mind you, this is only on dial up and broadband accounts. Most T1 lines, etc, used for business wouldn't need this requirement as they already have administrators that keep things secure and zombies to a minimum, and RBL's already deal with most of the rest.

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    • Re:ISP's and Open Ports by b0s0z0ku (Score:2) Monday July 24 2006, @02:16PM
  • According to the Computer Industry Almanac [c-i-a.com] the U.S. uses 25% of the world's PCs. While I know our broadband penetration is not has high as other countries, we sure have a lot of hardware. Another thing to look at would be total messages in/out versus total messages claimed as spam. Sophos doesn't give us that piece of information. At least last year, Andrei Serjantov and Richard Clayton had done some work along those very lines in a paper found here [infosecon.net]. I don't know if they've updated it.
  • What I see (Score:2)

    by BCW2 (168187) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:10PM (#15770698)
    (Last Journal: Monday September 25 2006, @07:02PM)
    My ISP has a pretty good filter and they hold what is blocked for a week. When I access my "help mail" file everything is identified by country. Two months ago close to two thirds was from the US and it all got forwarded to the FTC. Today that is down to about 40% from the US and I still forward everything to the FTC. They do file many charges against spammers every month and the US amount is dropping.

    I suspect that if things were traced all the way through that many of the US and offshore groups are related and working for or in partnership with each other. If the top five "spam cartels" were taken down I think we would see a 75% or more drop in SPAM worldwide.
  • worrying? (Score:3, Informative)

    by pe1chl (90186) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:13PM (#15770734)
    "It's worrying to see so many pump-and-dump emails - often with embedded graphics included - being spammed out to the general public," added Cluley. "The people that act upon these emails aren't skilled investors, and don't realise that purchasing the shares is likely to reap no reward, benefiting only the spammers, while creating a financial rollercoaster for the organisation in question."

    Why is this worrying, in the sense that it needs to be mentioned explictly?
    Most of the general public is not medically educated either, yet we have received spam about all sorts of pills for a long time.
    And many do not know what 419 is, yet lots of those mails are sent as spam.
    Lots of the spam I receive is in far-east languages which most western citizens are not skilled to read.

    SPAM in itself is worrying, but there is nothing especially worrying about pump-and-dump.
  • I blame Bill Gates (Score:2, Interesting)

    by FlynnMP3 (33498) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:34PM (#15770919)
    Who designed or allow to be designed all the software that is used for spam, virus and other technodangerous programs? Sure, all the unwitting unsuspecting people out there that treat their computer as a black box should be ashamed of themselves. To use a windows computer safely these days requires a strong predilection to research and remembering security bulletins and knowing specifically how a computer does things. Which in of itself requires knowing about security models, social engineering, UI design and understaning geek lingo.

    In short windows computers are no longer general use. Do you realize the implications of that statement? Well yes, of course you do gentle reader. Just this past month my mother called me her laptop died. Turned out a virus got in and overwrote some system files for Windows 2k. This is after telling her to not click on executables in emails, not answer any emails from banks without calling them, and plenty of other things that I read about daily. Even with constant reminders (voice and email) telling her to push the update button on AVG and looking at the results log and telling me if any red stop signs show up. She is now using a backup computer that I had laying around. This is Windows XP professional, installed with all the security trimmings (which shouldn't even be necessary on some level) of zone alarm, avg, and spybot - all setup to run automatically. I suggested that she get a mac mini for her next computer. She is thinking about it.

    Yes windows has gotten better about educating users, but only after the situation is so bad that almost nothing can stop it. Vista betas already have viruses. That's insane!

    Face it, this country has the most educated, nothing to do, do anything for business minded people ever. Heck the corporations are willfully fleecing the public and most of the them don't care that it's hapenning! "It's ok coming from us, because we use friendly advertising icons. /nod /nod".

    Makes me sick.
  • None of it would exist at all if the END USER stopped buying viagra every time they get an offer in their inbox..

    However, I would applaud a spamming company that slowly removed non-responsive email addresses from their spam lists and tailored their spam only to those few users who respond
  • Port Blocking and interface? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Midnight Thunder (17205) on Monday July 24 2006, @12:46PM (#15771006)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday February 05 2005, @03:50AM)
    My provider prevents me from sending to SMTP ports outside of my domain, for better or for worse. This got me thinking:
        - would it be possible to selectivley block ports?
        - provide an ISP based UI, where you could unblock ports based on your account?
        - if both above are doable, what over head would this provide?
        - maybe provide different default configurations based on the type of user you are (technophobe, newbie, average home user, business user, power user, etc)
        - how well would such a solution go down?

    Sure you could ask everyone to install the equivalent of zone alarms, but this is not always going to happen.
  • But How Many Computers? (Score:4, Informative)

    by fdiskne1 (219834) on Monday July 24 2006, @01:14PM (#15771198)
    I see a number of people asking the question "But how many computers are there per country?" I found the numbers at:

    http://www.c-i-a.com/pr0904.htm [c-i-a.com]

    Here's what they show. I've added the % of spam coming from each country as the last entry in each line:

    Top 15 Countries in Internet Usage
    Internet Users (#X1000) Users% Spam%
    1. U.S. 185,550 19.86 23.2% of spam
    2. China 99,800 10.68 20.0%
    3. Japan 78,050 8.35 1.6%
    4. Germany 41,880 4.48 2.5%
    5. India 36,970 3.96 N/A
    6. UK 33,110 3.54 1.8%
    7. South Korea 31,670 3.39 7.5%
    8. Italy 25,530 2.73 3.0%
    9. France 25,470 2.73 5.2%
    10. Brazil 22,320 2.39 3.1%
    11. Russia 21,230 2.27 N/A
    12. Canada 20,450 2.19 N/A
    13. Mexico 13,880 1.49 N/A
    14. Spain 13,440 1.44 4.8%
    15. Australia 13,010 1.39 N/A
    Top 15 Countries 662,360 70.88
    Worldwide Total 934,480 100

    It looks like the USA's numbers are right about on track with most other countries with China way out in front as to percent of the spam problem compared to percent of Internet connected computers. What's this? France has twice the percent of spams relaying through their country compared to the percent of Internet users? For shame!
  • by tota (139982) on Monday July 24 2006, @01:21PM (#15771254)
    (http://nagafix.co.uk/)
    Last time I posted, I somehow offended a few americans who mistakenly took my attack on climate-change nay-sayers as an attack on America and americans as whole: it resulted in DoS on my sites and a joe-job campaign against my public mail servers.

    Polute the world, polute our mailboxes, and be damned anyone who dares question whether this is moral or not!

    Funny thing is: my spam filters are now much improved! Thanks!
  • Per capita or per connection? (Score:3, Informative)

    by phorm (591458) on Monday July 24 2006, @01:32PM (#15771328)
    (http://phorm.phormix.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 19 2003, @12:08PM)
    I would like to see a per-capita or per-connection statistic for this. I notice that Canada isn't up there on that list, but they do have a lesser population than China/USA (though probably more than many of the others), and alternately a pretty high ratio of connectivity per household/business.

    How about a graph of "# of known connections in country vs amount of spam). If country X is only contributing 2% of the spam, but they've got 2% of the overall population and only 25% of that is connected... it shows a little more how the local control on such things may be a bit... lax.
  • USA on top!! (Score:1)

    by ebief (851390) on Monday July 24 2006, @03:26PM (#15772151)
    U S A!! U S A!! U S A!!


    oh wait..



    filerfilterfilterfilterfilter
  • by Retired Replicant (668463) on Monday July 24 2006, @04:33PM (#15772581)
    This report doesn't take into account each country's percentage of the total world internet user population. If you take that into account, China and S. Korea are far worse than the US on a per-capita internet-user basis:
    • USA: 23.2% of world spam, 20.1% of world internet users
    • China: 20.0% of world spam, 10.9% of world internet users
    • S. Korea: 7.9% of world spam, 3.3% of world internet users
    So adjusted for internet user population, the US puts out 23.2/20.1 = 1.15, or 15% more spam than expected. China puts out 20.0/10.9 = 1.83, or 83% more spam than expected. South Korea puts out 7.9/3.3 = 2.39, or 139% more spam than expected. I got the internet population stats from: http://www.internetworldstats.com/top20.htm [internetworldstats.com]
  • by e_AltF4 (247712) on Monday July 24 2006, @04:51PM (#15772662)
    Perl + Geo::IP 200601-200607

    US     28.1%
    CN     10.0%
    UA      8.5%
    KR      5.2%
    DE      4.7%
    FR      3.5%
    PL      3.5%
    ES      3.0%
    IN      2.8%
    BR      2.6%
    IT      2.6%
    RU      2.4%
    JP      1.9%
    GB      1.8%
    CA      1.6%
    TR      1.4%
    NL      1.3%
    MX      1.3%
    CZ      1.0%

    (Limit >= 1%)
  • Re:Correction to the Correction (Score:2, Flamebait)

    by digitaldc (879047) * on Monday July 24 2006, @11:43AM (#15770498)
    The vast majority of this spam is relayed by 'zombies,' also known as american citizens.

    Dude, you meant British citizens.
    Have you forgotten about Shaun of the Dead?? [movie-gazette.com]
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  • Re:Correction (Score:2)

    by mustafap (452510) on Tuesday July 25 2006, @05:16PM (#15779959)
    (http://www.drivesentinel.co.uk/)
    Maybe I should have clarified my point :o)

    I was just hinting that it is really the fools who have high speed net access, left on 24-7 but do not bother to consider computer security who are too blame - not the computers themselves.

    From my comment rating I guess my point was lost. Maybe less british comedy next time ;o)
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