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Trojan Deletes Your Porn, Music & Warez
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on Tue May 16, 2006 07:29 AM
from the someone-else-to-think-for-you dept.
from the someone-else-to-think-for-you dept.
E. Vigilant writes "The new Trojan/Erazor-A has an interesting twist. In addition to deleting or disabling various security products and competing malware, it deletes any porn, warez and music in your P2P directories. While some opine that this trojan might have good intentions, remarkably few things infect the text files this trojan also deletes. No one yet knows who wrote this or why."
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Altruism? I have my doubts... (Score:5, Insightful)
From TFA: Well, that's a remarkably stupid assumption.
What's more likely?
- or -
Let's analyze who benefits from each scenario:
I pick avarice over sloppily executed altruism any day. I find it intriguing that this alternate explanation apparently didn't even occur to PC World.
Re:Altruism? I have my doubts... (Score:5, Insightful)
3) Virus writers stage this to make it look like the RIAA, MPAA, ect, are "pulling a Sony" in an attempt to pull a classic "Throw a rock at the bee hive the ranger is standing next to so BooBoo can grab the pic-a-nic basket".
Add option #4 (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.widescreen.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday February 15 2006, @07:44PM)
4) Write a trojan to wipe out what people apparently consider to be important so that they are more aware of virus scanners.
Hmmm... would the various anti-virus companies do something like this to advertise the need for their products on people who lose gigs and gigs of files to a trojan? Nahhh....
Re:Add option #4 (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://home.comcast.net/~steve_k/thermite.jpg)
Even simpler:
4) Write a trojan to wipe out what people apparently consider to be important just because the trojan writer is a prick.
Add option #5 (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.sigg3.net/)
5) Trojan not only sentient, but self-sustainable and conventionally biased. Will take over the world.
Proof of Intelligent Design? You be the judge.
Re:Add option #5 (Score:4, Funny)
(http://shockandblog.com/blog)
sorry ;) (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.milkmiruku.com/)
Re:Add option #4 (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://kadin.sdf-us.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @01:46PM)
If I copy your file, you have a copy, I have a copy. Nobody has lost anything. Therefore, it can't possibly be called stealing by most people's definitions.
If I copy your file and then delete the original, then I have it and you don't, that I think we can all agree, is stealing. Likewise, if it's on physical media which only one of us can possess at a time, and I take the physical media, then it's also stealing.
If I delete something without taking a copy, then it's not stealing, it's just vandalism or destruction of your stuff.
You are mis-stating the argument you're trying to make fun of (the "it's not physical so therefore not stealing") and so your parody falls flat. The fact that data isn't physical isn't the important part, it's the fact that nobody loses their copy in a typical "pirate" transaction. That's what differentiates it from "theft" in the minds of many people.
Personally, I think that unauthorized copying is not theft, but might meet the qualifications for wrongful conversion of property, if you take a wide enough definition of 'property.' (So as not to limit it to real property and chattels, but include the value of data as well.) See this page [lectlaw.com]. Normally it applies only to physical goods. At any rate, there are existing sections of law which are more appropriately applied to the reduction-in-value that occurs when data is unlawfully copied than theft and larceny.
Add option #5 (Score:5, Funny)
Or, maybe not...
Re:Add option #5 ... unless ... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.widescreen.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday February 15 2006, @07:44PM)
Then, maybe so...
No way, that would ever happen (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Add option #5 (Score:5, Funny)
You are right (*sniff*). I'm afraid I'm only 1336 (*sniff*)...
Virtual machines (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Monday January 31 2005, @05:48PM)
Re:Altruism? I have my doubts... (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.skoolie.n...v/other/91_New_Flyer)
3) A strike against the MPAA, RIAA and any other "law abiding" corporation (who manages to be capable of CREATING those very laws) by targeting the computers that seed the incomplete, misnamed and intentionally infected files and the files on computers that have downloaded from them by users stupid enough to download things under 1kb.
Any smart P2P user changes the default directories to customize their own bitspace so it's easier for the person using the software to find what they've downloaded, not to mention archive on another device or media those files they truly wish to retain.
Do note that I did say *smart*.
Avarice (Score:4, Insightful)
My theory is that this was made by someone who WANTS people to think that the RIAA made it, so that even more people will turn against them and take some heat off of P2P.
Re:Avarice (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/)
I don't. I've seen how dumb large organizations can be.
Re:Altruism? I have my doubts... (Score:5, Insightful)
The first thing I thought was that it was well intentioned - in the long run.
The general public have demonstrated time and time again that they really don't care about security. They'll put up with their computer slowing down and crashing, they'll put up with random popup ads, they'll put up with their computer being used to spam people...
Removing virus vectors doesn't solve the problem in the long run. Ultimately, only education will do that. This is a form of education, a lesson that will actually sink in.
Re:Altruism? I have my doubts... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.lcscanada.com/jaf)
reinstalled it. People just don't care, and I don't expect to ever understand why
People assume that anything that happens on their computer is visible in the GUI. Therefore if weatherbug doesn't pop up a requester saying "I'm spying on you now, please type something interesting", naive people will assume it's not doing that.
I suspect this misapprehension will change only through hard experience.
I can only conclude that people at PC World ain't (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday August 17, @05:34AM)
If it only deleted .exe .bat .com etc etc then I could understand the logic BUT deleting media files does not protect anyone.
They almost touch on the simplest explenation. Vigilante. Believe it or not but there are some individuals who feel they have a need to stop others from downloading via p2p.
They would be intrested in deleting any media files you downloaded via p2p. They would not be protecting you but making your (in their eyes illegal) activity worthless. So that explains why they delete harmless files.
It also explains why they try to disable security programs, yet another punishment. That way you are far more at risk from using P2P by being infected. The logic being that pirates do not deserve to be safe.
Vigilante seeking to punish p2p users. Not the RIAA and not some guardian angel. The RIAA would have to have some extremly bad lawyers to have allowed this and a guardian angel would only destroy files wich put you at risk and not disable security software.
Vigilantes have done stuff like this before. It falls in the same field as those "jezus loves you" posts in porn usenet groups. Or so I been told. Not that I would know anything about that offcourse.
Re:I can only conclude that people at PC World ain (Score:4, Informative)
(http://portcache.com/)
Since the people making the media players haven't figured out how to properly code. It is definetly possible to get infected or compromized via a media file. Look at the whole Microsoft image rendering problem a few months ago. One look at a specially crafted image on a website and you're compromized.
Slashspin (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/~eldavojohn/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @03:26PM)
What they fail to mention is that people who use P2P networks often want those files that they've collected. So this virus is destroying something they want.
I mean, who installs eMule or Bit Torrent and then wishes that one day someone would come and save them from the files they've downloaded? The very idea is ludicrous.
I use Bit Torrent. If a virus were to come and delete everything I've gotten from it (trailors, WoW patches, an odd assortment of legal videos and mp3s, etc), I don't know about you, but I would be right pissed. This isn't protection and it doesn't seem to discriminate from virile files and good files so it's pure and utter destruction.
The only thing "beneficial" is seen from the eyes of the RIAA or MPAA.
You "don't think" this was written with good intentions? A virus comes onto your machine, disables security & starts to delete files in directories with a certain naming convention. What more to do you need to say, "holy hell, I've got a freaking virus!"?
Re:Slashspin (Score:5, Funny)
Excuse me Sir, we've had some complaints from the other clientele, could you hand in your
Re:the first 'christian' virus? (Score:5, Funny)
(Last Journal: Sunday November 27 2005, @02:29PM)
Finally! (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://whineymacfanboy.googlepages.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 12 2007, @09:28AM)
Finally a threat that will make the average joe start to take computer security seriously! I look forward to a safe internet for everyone (I mean as soon as a few botnet node owner's loose their porn, peole will actually clean up their boxes!)
On a more serious note, quoting the pcworld article:WTF? How could anyone think that it's to attempt to protect users when it doesn't delete executables from p2p folders? (for an interesting overview of real "white hat worms" see this vnunet article [vnunet.com] and the slashdot discussion on the blaster removal worm) [slashdot.org]
This worm is clearly to scare people away from p2p - not protect them from other p2p malware.
What's the bet that one of [riaa.com] the companies [mpaa.org] that make oodles of money [apple.com] from content [bpi.co.uk] are behind this?
Re:Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Finally! (Score:4, Insightful)
That should hit Average Joe User hard enough to make them feel like they got raped by a train.
Re:Finally! (Score:4, Insightful)
Mind you, smart skip-divers probably will benefit from this.
Re:Thank god! (Score:5, Funny)
I thought Linux supported porn by now.
Re:Thank god! (Score:5, Funny)
Most Linux users don't look at porn? Didn't that all change when KDE came along and you didn't need both hands available?
Geeks unite! (Score:5, Funny)
Seems obvious to me. (Score:5, Funny)
(http://anti-slash.org/)
Of course it would delete your porn! Trojan [trojancondoms.com] wants you to go out and have real sex.
Re:Seems obvious to me. (Score:5, Funny)
They're not the only ones...
It... deletes PR0N??!! (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.slack-fr.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 07, @08:25AM)
0h n03z my pr0n h4s b33n st0l3d!!!11! (Score:3, Funny)
This thing could delete the Internet
As for the Who and the Why. I blame the RI/MP Ass's. of America.
Apple needs to jump on this quickly! (Score:5, Funny)
[old guy is coughing, wheezing,
[young guy] On a mac, you don't have to worry about losing your pr0n and warez!
[young asian chic to young guys right seductively takes leg and wraps it around young guys waist]
[cut to pic of imac]
Re:Apple needs to jump on this quickly! (Score:4, Funny)
[young asian chic opens mouth to talk, unsupported audio codec message appears, young guy just shrubs]
The next headline on slashdot.... (Score:5, Funny)
Nice to see a destructive payload for once (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://fatphil.org/)
Happy LARTing,
FatPhil
THIS IS WAR! (Score:5, Funny)
Then they came phishing for my bank account info, since I did not have a bank account, I said nothing.
Then they came for my porn...
Aiming poorly? (Score:4, Funny)
(http://annonsbevakaren.com/)
(...)
"The Erazer Trojan is a vigilante worthy of a Charles Bronson movie, taking the law into its own hands. However, it's perfectly possible for the Trojan to aim poorly and wipe out innocent files too," commented Graham Cluley of Sophos.
Aiming poorly? Yeah, if carpet bombing a country to hit a dart board is what you mean by aiming poorly...
Re:Aiming poorly? (Score:4, Funny)
Careful with such analogies. There'll be a bunch of loyal American patriots along in a minute to tell you how wrong you are, and that it's not aiming poorly, it's an enlightened foreign policy.
Re:Aiming poorly? (Score:5, Funny)
If you're not with us, you're against us, and that didn't sound "with us" enough for me. The air force will be preparing your neighborhood for a Haliburton contract in five minutes.
Ain't the first trojan to act like this (Score:3, Insightful)
That a trojan kills other trojans is hardly news. About a year ago two groups actually led a battle where one group tried to stab the other group's trojans (and vice versa) with their updates. Some trojans also use the names other trojans use to ensure those trojans can't install after they're already in. Makes detecting them correctly (i.e. as a different beast, not a new version) not really easier.
Almost every trojan today has some anti-anti-trojan functions. Killing Kaspersky, McAfee and Norton AV is more or less a standard feature of most current Trojans, so I wouldn't really call that news either.
The only outstanding feature that's hardly common is the deletion of incoming P2P objects. Which makes one wonder who
Translation please.. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://nystrom.nl/ | Last Journal: Sunday April 03 2005, @02:17PM)
Ehmm... What?
Dear lord (Score:3, Funny)
RIAA STRIKES BACK !!! (Score:3)
(http://www.webgeekworld.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 27 2006, @07:47AM)
Planned : RIAA prison camps full of former p2p people to be used as slave labor in music industry.
You wont be hiding
Coming to a theatre near you this summer
Official site : www.riaastrikesbackwithfear.com
Not cool (Score:3, Funny)
(http://haltingpoint.blogspot.com/)
These people have gone too far. If I get infected by this I'm going straight to the FBI, this is too serious to joke about.
PC World couldn't read the Sophos article! (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://flokemon.blogspot.com/)
The PC World rehash just (deliberately?) misinterprets it.
Let's have a wee comparison:
Sophos: - "The Erazer Trojan targets internet users it believes are involved in piracy, but fails to discriminate between the true criminals and those who may have MP3 music files or home movies that they have created themselves. Malware is not the way to fight internet piracy."
PC World: - "A "vigilante" Trojan, that attempts to protect infected PCs from the effects of malware caught while using peer-to-peer file-sharing networks, has been discovered."
Now how they came up with that from the Sophos article is beyond my understanding.
New Service (Score:5, Funny)
I just wanted to offer my new backup service for all who of you who fear this trojan. Just contact me so we can arrange transfers. Please do not be wary of my generosity, for helping is its own reward.
paraphrasing... (Score:3)
In this case I think it's stupidity to create a virus that deletes the files it would be most likely to be able to propogate itself through.
Maybe some little hacker kiddie got caught wanking it by his mom and she deleted all his pr0n so he's on a "if I can't have it nobody can" rampage.
Where can I find a Linux version? (Score:3, Funny)
(http://nutsncents.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday August 08 2003, @07:47PM)
Damn! Obviously, Linux isn't ready for the home user.
Does anybody know what this is supposed to mean? (Score:3, Informative)
I've attempted to read that sentence about a dozen times, and I have no clue what the writer's trying to say.
Re:Uhoh (Score:5, Funny)
(http://evil.google.com/)
Re:So? (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://users.pandora.be/redx | Last Journal: Sunday March 19 2006, @01:26PM)
How about we write a malware proof OS. That's orders of magnitudes easier that the above.