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Microsoft Won't Offer Patch Before Worm Strikes?

Posted by Zonk on Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:35 AM
from the i-object? dept.
techmuse writes "According to an article in Information Week, Microsoft is aware that the 'Kama Sutra/Blackworm/MyWife' worm will hit on Friday, overwriting office documents, but will not release a patch until its regular monthly patch release on February 14th. Unless, that is, you subscribe to one of Microsoft's pay security services, in which case your machine will have the worm removed in advance." From the article: "The blog offered no explanation why the tool wouldn't be updated earlier, nor did Microsoft immediately respond to questions. Each month, Microsoft pushes a revised tool to Windows users who have Automatic Update enabled for Windows Update or Microsoft Update. The Redmond, Wash.-based company has released the Malicious Software Removal Tool off-schedule once before, in August 2005, shortly after the Zotob worm began striking Windows 2000 systems."
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  • All should not be lost... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by DaHat (247651) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:38AM (#14616631)
    (http://www.brendansstudentloans.com/)
    So Microsoft wont help out the unwashed masses with an early patch... what about the anti-virus publishers? Can they detect and remove the worm?
    • Re:All should not be lost... by LiquidCoooled (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:53AM
    • Re:All should not be lost... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:56AM (#14616857)
      Just FYI...
      Microsoft is not distributing the patch out of cycle because it is not a vulnerability, it is a mass mailing worm. It has been categorized as low risk. The "unwashed masses" can get the removal tool from

      http://www.microsoft.com/security/encyclopedia/det ails.aspx?name=Win32%2FMywife [microsoft.com]
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:All should not be lost... by ff0000 (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:46PM
      • Re:All should not be lost... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by ShamusYoung (528944) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:51PM (#14617456)
        (http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale)
        How hard is it to not run software mailed to you by a stranger? If I mailed you a syringe labeled "everlasting life", would you jam it in your arm and shoot it? No? Did I mention it's FREE and that you are our LUCKY WINNAR? Cuz you are.

        What we really need is for MS to release a patch to repair the stupid and irresponsible users out there. Why haven't they fixed this obvious security loophole?

        The problem with these viruses is that they do not kill the victims. If they did, then at least we could look forward to the point when Darwinisim fixed the problem for us. :)

        [ Parent ]
        • LUA by giorgosts (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:13PM
          • Re:LUA by clydemaxwell (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @03:29PM
            • Re:LUA by toadlife (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @04:11PM
              • Re:LUA by HiThere (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @05:10PM
              • Re:LUA by toadlife (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @06:58PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by That's Unpossible! (Score:3) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:15PM
          • Re:All should not be lost... by Lehk228 (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:23PM
          • Re:All should not be lost... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by LurkerXXX (667952) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:28PM (#14617877)
            It shouldn't be, but apparently it is. People keep coming to me after they've trashed their systems. I ask way they opened an unknown attachment and they always say the same thing "But it was from my co-worker/friend/family member X. They wouldn't send me anything bad!". That's after I've told them literally dozens of times that modern viruses spoof the name of the sender and that person X's machine may be infected, or someone who has both person X and them in their address book may be infected. Don't ever open any attachment unless you know what it is. If your not sure what it is it only takes 2 seconds to hit the reply button and ask "What's this".... It never sinks in. Even after the "I love you" virus, etc. They just can't be educated.

            And no, I don't think that moving to *nix is the answer either. I've had users follow instructions included with an email virus to type in a password required to unzip the payload, then run it. Those users will certainly be willing to type in "rm *" or whatever instructions come along with a virus. Their user files, the only thing of value on the machine, are toast either way. These are the same folks that will never back up their data either, so they really are toast.

            [ Parent ]
        • Re:All should not be lost... by PCCybertek (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:26PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by gregmark (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:40PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... (Score:5, Interesting)

          by gstoddart (321705) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:47PM (#14618136)
          (http://slashdot.org/)
          How hard is it to not run software mailed to you by a stranger? If I mailed you a syringe labeled "everlasting life", would you jam it in your arm and shoot it? No? Did I mention it's FREE and that you are our LUCKY WINNAR? Cuz you are.

          What we really need is for MS to release a patch to repair the stupid and irresponsible users out there. Why haven't they fixed this obvious security loophole?

          Well, experience has told us that not all of these Microsoft vulnerabilities have anything to do with 'stupid and irresponsible' users.

          Thanks to Microsoft, there's so many viruses that don't even require user intervention; some products will simply decide that it should both hide the extension and automatically run it for you.

          I don't know the specifics of this worm, but times have come a long way from where you'd have to click on at attachment, select save, and then run. Nowadays the infection can happen automatically, instantly, and completely unobserved -- all because Microsoft figures it should automatically execute anything that looks executable (or that you're not really mature enough to see the extension of this file, so it looks like a JPG, or just simply because it's fun.)

          I think it's far more irresponsible of Microsoft to effectively say "Well, between now and when we release the patch, you could lose all of your data. But if you've paid extra, you can have the patch now."

          Time was when someone would send you an e-mail warning you that should shouldn't even click on an attachment since it could be a virus, you would politely tell them it was impossible. Nowadays, that's simply not true any more.

          I think blaming the users 100% for this is absurd.
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          • TROLL???? by gstoddart (Score:3) Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:29PM
            • Re:TROLL???? (Score:5, Interesting)

              by Overly Critical Guy (663429) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @03:55PM (#14619621)
              If you haven't noticed, Slashdot has been invaded in recent years by a pro-Microsoft contingent who thinks Windows is great, outrage over its ridiculous security flaws is overblown, and who mod down those who point out how much time and money Windows has forced people to waste. For Christ's sake, you have to diaper Windows today with a hodge-podge of anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, registry cleaner, defragmenter, etc. just to keep it running smoothly for longer than six months, and even then, Windows naturally slows down after a year and requires a complete reinstall to regain its speed. Simply amazing.

              At least CBS News pointed out in their report on the worm that Mac users were unaffected.
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            • Re:TROLL???? by toadlife (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @04:49PM
              • Re:TROLL???? by HiThere (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @05:03PM
              • Re:TROLL???? by toadlife (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @05:18PM
          • Re:All should not be lost... by drsmithy (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:39PM
        • Stranger? WHAT stranger? by Stephen Samuel (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:57PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by SoulMaster (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:29PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by rainman_bc (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @03:37PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by Overly Critical Guy (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @03:52PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by operagost (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @04:32PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by Firehed (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @05:28PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by ozmanjusri (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @08:33PM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by marcello_dl (Score:2) Thursday February 02 2006, @07:35AM
        • Re:All should not be lost... by cahrichak (Score:1) Thursday February 02 2006, @08:40AM
        • Re:Simple fix by afidel (Score:3) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:25PM
        • Re:Simple fix by Phurd Phlegm (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:27PM
        • Re:Simple fix (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Dare nMc (468959) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:34PM (#14617965)
          > You want to give someone a file, send them a link to your ftp server.
          get with the times, should be a tracking link to your torrent.
          ftp works for the 2% of people who have their own non nat, static ip address with a ftp server that hasn't been blasted off the face of the internet. I am even in the small percent that do have a static ip, but the people I send files to don't have VPN access to any of my servers, and having ftp openly accesable to the net would just be stupid (and which windows users have sftp client installed? ok I do have port 80 access to a webserver that could serve the file, but thats probably not average or easier than attach either.)
          [ Parent ]
          • Re:Simple fix by Shakrai (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:50PM
            • Re:Simple fix (Score:5, Insightful)

              by diersing (679767) <gdiersing@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:54PM (#14618934)
              Haven't you ever heard of iptables and port knocking for friends with dynamic IPs? --reject-with tcp-reset is your friend

              Clearly a solution for the unwashed masses. We can't seem to get people from double clicking every email attachment, I'm sure their ready to setup, configure and tweak their own IPTables.

              [ Parent ]
              • Re:Simple fix by BlueStrat (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @04:17PM
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          • Re:Simple fix by dantheman82 (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:49PM
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      • Re:All should not be lost... by eneville (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:48PM
    • Re:All should not be lost... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by BkBen7 (926853) <bkben3@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:17PM (#14617091)
      (http://progress.selfip.net/)
      Or maybe they should sue their brain for non-support after being told hundreds upon hundreds of times.

      Attachments from unknown people? Delete!

      Scan Attachments before clicking!

      Ask sender if they meant to send attachment!



      Microsoft has no responsibility to cover a users idiocy.


      Ok, bring the bad karma.
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  • Prior art for this MS business plan. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:38AM (#14616637)
    Nice Windows machine you've got there. Wouldn't want anything to, um, happen to it. You need insurance, and we happen to sell insurance. Capiche?
  • by ackthpt (218170) * on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:38AM (#14616639)
    (http://www.dragonswest.com/ | Last Journal: Monday November 05, @07:35PM)

    What, me worry? [wikimedia.org]
  • A simple word for it... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by sterno (16320) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:39AM (#14616641)
    (http://www.bigbrother.net/)
    Unless, that is, you subscribe to one of Microsoft's pay security services, in which case your machine will have the worm removed in advance.

    This is what is commonly referred to as "extortion". Pay them now or something bad might happen. You wouldn't want something bad to happen would you?
    • Re:A simple word for it... by PacketScan (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:46AM
    • Re:A simple word for it... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by CXI (46706) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:47AM (#14616734)
      (http://slashdot.org/)
      Wrong. The entire content of this story is that Microsoft isn't releasing a malicious software removal tool until the 14th, as usual. So, go use any virus checker on the planet instead, including Microsoft's, to solve the problem now.
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    • New Business Strategy Actually by WebHostingGuy (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:49AM
    • Re:A simple word for it... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by RyoShin (610051) <tukaro @ g m a i l . c om> on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:12PM (#14617042)
      (http://www.tukaro.com/ | Last Journal: Monday September 17, @12:54AM)
      Not quite.

      Extortion [wikipedia.org] is when someone says "pay or do this, or something bad could happen later", and the person saying that is the one that will make the bad happen later.

      In this case, it's Microsoft saying "We'll take care of this problem sooner for a little money", but someone else will make the bad thing happen regardless. Microsoft is just offering clean up/prevention, not "assured safety". Your lack of acceptance will not make the problem better or worse; it will stay exactly the same.

      An analogy might be that there's a gang of kids going around defacing houses, and Company XYZ says "We'll stick a security guard in front of your house for a little extra money, so you'll be ready when those kids show up, and won't have to wait for the police to show up when you do get hit." XYZ is offering an enhanced service; if you turn them down, your house will likely get defaced, but not because of anything XYZ did.

      (If you can show that XYZ/Micrsoft is in cohorts with the kids/virus writer, then that is indeed extortion, but at face it's mislabeling.)
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    • It makes perfect sense (kinda) by Stephen Samuel (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:27PM
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  • Also on Friday (Score:2)

    by suso (153703) * on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:39AM (#14616643)
    (http://suso.suso.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday March 09 2004, @12:03AM)
    Friday is also the 30th anniversary of the "Homebrew Letter" that Gates wrote complaining about copying basic on the altair. And also my 30th birthday.
  • fuel for the fire (Score:1)

    by marcelC (592689) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:39AM (#14616652)
    (http://wastedworld.net/)
    The arguments for switching just come from the news. I hate having to explain why it a "Good Thin" (tm) not to use windows.
  • Simple answer (Score:1, Redundant)

    by nurb432 (527695) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:40AM (#14616657)
    (http://slashdot.org/~nurb432/ | Last Journal: Friday August 27 2004, @03:24PM)
    Pay up to Guido or bad things might happen...
  • Try to be a little fair (Score:5, Informative)

    by bushidocoder (550265) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:42AM (#14616683)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    Unless, that is, you subscribe to one of Microsoft's pay security services, in which case your machine will have the worm removed in advance.

    Or, if you had read the very article you're posting, "Both the company's free online security service, Windows Live Safety, and its in-beta OneCare Live software, however, will disinfect compromised computers, Microsoft said."

    • Re:Try to be a little fair by danidude (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:51AM
    • Re:Try to be a little fair (Score:5, Insightful)

      by nologin (256407) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:07PM (#14616982)
      (http://slashdot.org/)
      Unfortunately, the effort here by Microsoft here won't save the users most likely affected by the virus. Those users who don't know how to protect themselves adequately probably rely on Windows Update to keep their computer safe. How many of them will be informed in time to use Live Safety, or for that matter, how many of them know that it exists?

      At least I know how to protect my computers. So the impact to me would be none regardless of what Microsoft does. It is those users that don't even know the definition of malware that are most at risk, and will be the least likely to use Microsoft's proposed remedy.
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      • Re:Try to be a little fair (Score:4, Insightful)

        by ocbwilg (259828) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:43PM (#14618086)
        Unfortunately, the effort here by Microsoft here won't save the users most likely affected by the virus. Those users who don't know how to protect themselves adequately probably rely on Windows Update to keep their computer safe. How many of them will be informed in time to use Live Safety, or for that matter, how many of them know that it exists?

        Dude, what are you smoking? Those users who don't know how to protect themselves adequately probably don't even know what Windows Update is, let alone rely on it to keep their PC safe.
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  • Incorrect Story (Score:5, Interesting)

    by CXI (46706) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:44AM (#14616699)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    Come on people. This story is completely wrong. Microsoft is not withholding anything. They simple do not have a Malicioius Software Removal Tool currently ready because the system is built around deploying it on the 14th. The reference to Microsoft's pay services are the same as if you used Symantec or any other virus scanner out that which already detects the worm. It's not extortion, it's not even a story.
  • Happy Valentine's Day! (Score:5, Funny)

    by digitaldc (879047) * on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:44AM (#14616708)
    Microsoft is aware that the 'Kama Sutra/Blackworm/MyWife' worm will hit on Friday, overwriting office documents, but will not release a patch until its regular monthly patch release on February 14th.

    How ironic that a patch for the Kama Sutra/MyWife worm will be released on February 14th.
    Happy Valentine's Day - Love, Microsoft.
  • Or if you don't want to pay (Score:3, Informative)

    by Shimdaddy (898354) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:45AM (#14616717)
    (http://www.skorchedearth.com/)
    If you can't / don't want to pay, but you still want to be secure, you still have an option. You see, if you read the full article, and go to the knowledgebase post about it, Microsoft says that up-to-date anti-cirus will take care of it. Don't have up to date anti-virus? That's ok too! Just visit the onecare part of safety.live.com, and Microsoft will scan your computer for viruses (including this one) in addition to all the other crap that builds up on computers.

    Now, speaking as someone who has tried the online virus scanner, I have to say it works really quite well. It's just the tool to clean your computer of viruses, spyware, malware, unused/unneeded files -- and even knocks out those MICRO$OFT haters on /.!
    • Re:Or if you don't want to pay (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ZachPruckowski (918562) <zachary.pruckowski@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:59AM (#14616896)
      Your argument reminds me of something a friend said. We all have seen those "hardest American football hits ever" sports reels, right? Now they look nice and pretty, and they knock the ball carrier down, right? Now here's the problem: in almost every case, the guy had already caught the ball and picked up yards.

      Do you see what I'm getting at? All those viruses and spywares and worms on your computer have already done damage when you get them removed. The goal is to keep them from getting on your computer or at least keep them from running. And MS is deliberately charging for that feature. Their online virus-removal thing is nice, and can mitigate some damage, but the horse already left the barn.
      [ Parent ]
    • Free MS Online Services by 10scjed (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:17PM
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  • Haha... (Score:2, Informative)

    by gru3hunt3r (782984) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:46AM (#14616725)
    (Last Journal: Wednesday April 20 2005, @04:16AM)
    Yet another reason i'm glad our IT department decided to standardize on open office. Doesn't appear opendoc files are targeted.

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  • The constant hate... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Last_Available_Usern (756093) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:47AM (#14616743)
    I know this is probably redundant, but is it possible for people to make a story submission relating to Microsoft without drawing imaginary horns and a "666" on their logo every time? I will grant that Micrsoft should probably release the patch to everyone right now for secuirty reasons, but I'm sure there are ample folks who use Oracle, and they won't give you *any* patches at *any* time, or allow you to peruse any of their Metalink site, without first paying.
  • Honestly... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by JFlex (763276) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:49AM (#14616769)
    ... Why would they hold back on the patch? If they have it available and ready to push out, why not just do it? I don't understand, its as if this is their way of raising their right hand and flipping everyone off.
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  • by Cr0w T. Trollbot (848674) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:51AM (#14616799)
    "Why do you want to return it?"

    "Because there's a car bomb on it set to go off on Friday."

    "Sorry, that's not our car bomb."

    "No, but when I bought the car, there was a modular plug next to the engine with PLACE CAR BOMB HERE written on it!"

    "Sorry, not our problem. You knew this car was prone to car bombs when you bought it, and your purchase agreement specifically spells out that we're not responsible for car bomb damage."

    "Can you at least remove the car bomb?"

    "Sorry, but your contract specifically states that we're under no obligation to remove any car bombs attached to your car. Now, if you would be interested in purchasing our special Car Bomb Insurance..."

    - Crow T. Trollbot

    • More like this by thisislee (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:23PM
      • Re:More like this (Score:5, Insightful)

        by ivan256 (17499) * on Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:09PM (#14617641)
        Your analogy is more accurate than the parent, but still faulty. The problem is with this part:

        Our car is as car bomb proof as we were able to make it

        I'm fairly certain that Microsoft engineers were fully capable of making Windows more secure. They have smart people working there. Reality is that they made it as secure as they were willing to make it. It's like cars in the '60s. Safety didn't sell if it was an inconvienience. Adding more security to Windows would have meant less ease of use and less backwards compatability. Both are important to maintain the customer base and prevent people from considering alternatives. Were they right or wrong? That depends on how you look at it, but you certainly can't say they implemented security to the limits of their ability.
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    • Re:"I would like to return this car" by evil-osm (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @01:31PM
    • Re:"I would like to return this car" by Reverend528 (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @02:14PM
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  • *Trojan*, not worm (Score:2)

    by jiushao (898575) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:52AM (#14616801)
    The story and summary are confused; This is not a worm, and what is discussed is not a patch for it. Blackworm is a regular old "run this fine file I have emailed you!"-trojan, so as long as people don't randomly run email attachments they are safe. What is not scheduled for release until the regular patch-cycle is the "removal tool" which is included in every patch-cycle. It just removes malicious software which has already sneaked onto the computer, in this case through user carelessness.

    Some may argue that Microsoft should release a removal tool before the patch cycle anyway, and there is some credibility to the idea, though the logical extreme is that Microsoft should include an anti-virus program for free with Windows.

  • You get what you pay for (Score:5, Insightful)

    by analog_line (465182) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:52AM (#14616804)
    Check the license agreement for Windows XP. Nothing in there says that Microsoft will ever provide fixes, period. If you don't like their service-after-the-sale, get off the upgrade treadmill and stop buying licenses from them or buy an expanded service agreement from them. They aren't

    Software licenses are agreements that should have the full weight of contract law. There is no other way that the licenses I prefer, like the GPL, BSD, Mozilla, MIT, etc, get any legal weight. If you can't abide by the terms, take a stand, show some guts, and click "Cancel" on the install. Find some software that is licensed under terms you can accept. Don't be a sheep and agree just because it would be too hard, or make you go look for other software if you disagree.

    THIS STUFF IS IMPORTANT.
  • So? (Score:1)

    by ninja_assault_kitten (883141) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:58AM (#14616878)
    Good for them.
  • Bill "Capone" Gates? (Score:1, Troll)

    by antarctican (301636) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:59AM (#14616887)
    (http://luther.ca/)
    Microsoft security is sounding more and more like a protection racket...

    "It'd be a shame if anything happened to those Word documents of yours..."
  • by GillBates0 (664202) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:01PM (#14616920)
    (http://slashdot.org/~GillBates0 | Last Journal: Tuesday July 10, @04:36PM)
    The Redmond, Wash.-based company has released the Malicious Software Removal Tool off-schedule once before

    Our sources say that this 'malicious tool' looks just like 'rm', but is made with evil bits. Some viewers have called in to report sinister rm.666 files all over the file systems - experts suspect these to be soft links to /bin/rm. Reports are steadily streaming in of other variants aliasing themselves to 'rm -rf /'.

    Viewers are urged to remain cautious. We shall return at 11 to talk about these and other stories.

  • by mike2006 (947377) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:02PM (#14616931)
    It has been a little over 2 years of this failed monthly update policy which was suppossed to be pre-empted for issues such as this. When they switched to monthly updates I remember one of the comments being it was at the request of overworked IT managers that wanted the ease of a single patch. You think they would have figured out by now that the user base they had listened to was completely incompetent in the first place. Is this the company you want to trust your IT infrastructure with not to mention the outrageous TCO of supporting MS?
  • by sixpaw (648825) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:03PM (#14616940)
    • Despite the eagerness to imply that this is something roaming the net randomly looking for computers to infect, it's pretty much your run-of-the-mill e-mail worm that actively requires opening an executable (.scr) attachment to infect a system. Under normal circumstances (i.e., without the free opportunity to bash Microsoft attached), how many IT pros would say that anyone opening a random attachment e-mailed to them deserved what they got?
    • McAfee rates this one as low-risk [mcafee.com] for both home and corporate users.
    • Symantec gives it a run-of-the-mill threat assessment [symantec.com] (low geographical distribution, easy containment).

    AFAICT this is as run-of-the-mill as virus threats get, and I'm grateful that MS is maintaining a level of software discipline and not jumping all over themselves to instantly respond to every stupid little worm that crosses the net. I'd much rather see meaningful updates once a month than frantic, possibly-buggy scramble fixes three times a week.
  • how about reading TFA? (Score:4, Informative)

    by teslar (706653) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:03PM (#14616946)
    from the summary:
    According to an article in Information Week, Microsoft is aware that the 'Kama Sutra/Blackworm/MyWife' worm will hit on Friday, overwriting office documents, but will not release a patch until its regular monthly patch release on February 14th. Unless, that is, you subscribe to one of Microsoft's pay security services,

    from TFA:
    Both the company's free online security service, Windows Live Safety, and its in-beta OneCare Live software, however, will disinfect compromised computers, Microsoft said.
  • Bad title (Score:2, Insightful)

    Microsoft Won't Offer Patch Before Worm Strikes?

    This is not a worm, but a virus, and MS is not releasing a patch, but an updated virus definition.
    Viruses are not caused by a system flaw but by user intervention, that is unless it is installed without user intervention, then it is a system flaw. I am not a Microsoft user but I see no fault they are doing.
    • Re:Bad title by Discordantus (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @08:43PM
      • Re:Bad title by pjbgravely (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @09:33PM
        • Re:Bad title by Discordantus (Score:1) Wednesday February 01 2006, @11:02PM
  • NO PAY (Score:2)

    by Transcendent (204992) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:09PM (#14617004)
    Both services mentioned that remove the worm for you are FREE. http://safety.live.com/ [live.com]
  • Two words (Score:1, Troll)

    by Billosaur (927319) * <wgrotherNO@SPAMoptonline.net> on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:13PM (#14617045)
    (Last Journal: Tuesday November 13, @10:52AM)
    Déjà vu
    • Re:Two words by doorbot.com (Score:2) Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:32PM
  • Misleading headline (Score:2, Informative)

    by blast3r (911514) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:13PM (#14617049)
    "will not release a patch until its regular monthly patch release " Someone should have researched this a bit before approving it. Microsoft has no obligation to patch this. This is a worm that relies mainly on user's opening up an evil email attachment. What is M$ supposed to patch? The end-user?
  • the real reson.... (Score:1)

    by madnuke (948229) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:14PM (#14617063)
    If Mircosoft were to 'send out emergency patch' then it would look bad on their half, maintaining their reputation of piss poor security. Anouncing it will be in the next windows update makes it look far more relaxed and more of a 'happy' situation for everyone. And the One Care issue thats just blatent future advertising for when they will want us to buy that or not be infected.
  • fat bil (Score:2, Funny)

    by lucky130 (267588) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:19PM (#14617117)
    mmmm, protection racket.
  • Combinations (Score:1)

    by Bizzeh (851225) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:23PM (#14617170)
    (http://www.bizzeh.com/)
    MS have to test the patch properly to make sure it doesnt break anything else, and they have to make sure it will still work on an infinate amount of combinations of hardware. they cant just do what others do and just stick a temperary plug over the hole, it has to be done and tried and tested properly.
  • Apparently the virus is of the executable-email-attachment variety, so if you don't open unknown attachments you're probably not in any danger. A local college announced to the media today that one of their administrative servers had been "infected by a hacker with a virus", whatever that means. I wonder if this is the one they've got; if so there's apparently no exposure of their data involved. I also wonder at the wisdom of announcing something like this (although the server in question did contain employee's confidential info, including SSNs). Kind of like putting a big "kick me" sign on your back...
  • by buddyglass (925859) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:25PM (#14617193)

    I don't consider it Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that every Windows user gets just-in-time virus removal for free. It might be different if the virus exploited an OS flaw, but to my knowledge this one doesn't. This is why people pay money for AV software. That said, it would be nice if they'd schedule an out-of-cycle release of the malicious software removal tool, but doing so could create a precedent they don't wish to establish.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:26PM (#14617211)

    if you goto the Windows Live.com site (hxtp://safety.live.com) to stop this malicious program/worm the MS site uses a malicious [pc-help.org] cookie [neohapsis.com] exploit [techweb.com] against you, if you deny the exploit you cant get to the site to get help

    its like a Hospital saying "we have to break your leg so we can fix your arm"
    they should be ashamed
  • Figures... (Score:1)

    by gimme_news (930165) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:35PM (#14617312)
    Not suprisingly, as soon as I fired up IE to comply with it's 'browser requirments' for the windows one care, it crashed. Absolutely. Serious. I was just reminded why I only use IE for windows updates, and cringe at even the idea of using it at all. One care? More like one crash!
  • About MyWife... (Score:2, Funny)

    by ohithere (662779) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:42PM (#14617379)
    Customer: So I'm really getting sick of MyWife. Is there any way I can get rid of it by Valentine's day? I really don't want to pay for it. Valentine's is so expensive and all... Microsoft: Well, if you make a special trip to us we can get rid of your MyWife for you. Otherwise you'll be chained to her until kingdom come. Just kidding! We'll patch things up right after Valentine's. We think that we need to let things run their course with your MyWife. After all, isn't that what marriage is for? To cost money and create misery?
  • by PFI_Optix (936301) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:49PM (#14617439)
    (Last Journal: Friday March 31 2006, @11:17AM)
    Just when you thought they'd done something good [slashdot.org], something like this comes up. I suppose their motto is "do some good, then do some evil to make up for it."
  • by jestbiker (951216) on Wednesday February 01 2006, @12:58PM (#14617509)