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Is Yahoo Actively Supporting Adware?
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CmdrTaco
on Tue Sep 20, 2005 08:07 AM
from the things-we-hate dept.
from the things-we-hate dept.
conq writes "According to BusinessWeek, a report said Yahoo was actively supporting the companies that spawn pop-up ads. In early September, Yahoo engineer Jeremy D. Zawodny sounded off on his blog: "Do I like those [software installation] practices? Hell no. It's insulting and disrespectful.""
update the story submission takes Jeremy out of context which he
blogs about and says mean things about us.
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Yahoo has been like this for some time (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday November 11 2005, @08:56AM)
More evil? (Score:5, Informative)
Yahoo is doing other evil stuff as well: [com.com]
Evil is yahoo becoming?
Re:More evil? (Score:4, Interesting)
Of course they are (Score:1, Funny)
(http://ellem.is-a-geek.org:5280/...html | Last Journal: Tuesday October 02, @10:35AM)
Note CISCO not adding spyware to their PIXs.
*or are they*
In other news Jeremy D. Zawodny fired (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.cgisecurity.com/)
Nothing New Here (Score:1)
(http://www.activestudios.com/)
Jeremys post in question.. (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.mjoelkbar.net/ | Last Journal: Wednesday April 20 2005, @09:29AM)
What popups (Score:2, Insightful)
I use Mozilla and selected privacy options.
Re:What popups (Score:5, Insightful)
There's no good reason to put up with those popups.
It's True! (Score:4, Funny)
(http://kerpau.net/)
What the?!?!?
meanwhile... (Score:3, Funny)
What's next? (Score:1, Funny)
(http://www.karimarie.net/)
They are here to make money (Score:1, Insightful)
Trust Yahoo? (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday November 10 2006, @02:16PM)
What Rosenzweig fails to mention is that Yahoo, like most companies, will take advantage of that trust to the furthest extent they can get away with.
Trust us because we say our foundation is trust? I don't think so.
How about "Trust us because we take steps to prevent adware, not support it."
Or, "Trust us because we will never piggyback software and settings changes onto downloads from us that you choose to install."
Or, "Trust us because it's not in our financial interest to do bad things to you."
Unfortunately, none of these three possibilities are true... and until they are, I will not trust Yahoo farther than I can throw them.
"Don't be evil" and other corporate nonsense (Score:4, Interesting)
"Don't be evil" ring a bell? Everyone pretty much "believed" the head honcos at google when they declared that was the company's motto.
Dow's motto is "We Bring Good Things to Life", except they purchased Union Carbide after Union Carbide killed tens of thousands of Indian people when a chemical plant in Bhopal released methyl isocyanate. [google.com]
Last time I mentioned Bhopal [wikipedia.org] and Dow, someone said "hey, that was Union Carbide, not Dow! Dow just bought them!" Well- Dow management and shareholders didn't seem to have much trouble sleeping at night after buying Union Carbide for a song (Union Carbide after the disaster became next to worthless as a brand.) Dow pretty much turned into a industrial-disaster profiteer.
Re:Trust Yahoo? (Score:4, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Friday November 10 2006, @02:16PM)
That said, I don't trust Google either... I just distrust them less.
And it's not about choice here -- it's about informed choice. As we learn more about the business practices of Yahoo, Google, et al, then we gain the ability to make informed choices. But until every company comes clean about the things that like Yahho has been getting bad publicity about, we don't have real choice.
"Go wank google some more if you don't like it.
Go wank yourself before you make assumptions about what companies I do or do not like.
Bad Troll.
Proposed new name for Yahoo! (Score:1, Funny)
(http://www.soundspectrum.com/)
In other news, Yahoo! will be changing its name to "Realhoo!"
Here is the real issue...LEGALLY, what is Spyware? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.davidmeyer.org/ | Last Journal: Monday February 26 2007, @10:47PM)
Re:Here is the real issue...LEGALLY, what is Spywa (Score:4, Funny)
Not surprising (Score:1)
(http://highcon.homeip.net/)
Can I trust Yahoo? I think not. (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.futurepower.net/)
Over the years, I have learned to have zero (0) trust in Yahoo.
From the Business Week article:
"Sure, no one issue will turn off Yahoo users in droves." One issue will definitely convince a large percentage of people never to visit Yahoo.
Another quote:
"... Yahoo risks tarnishing its reputation as a trustworthy Net player." Notice that doing an internet search is called "Googling". For knowledgeable people, Yahoo has a bad reputation. For others, Yahoo has no reputation at all.
Business writers write a lot of DISGUSTING nonsense about computer technology:
"To Yahoo's credit, it is leading industrywide discussions aimed at devising new practices for the adware companies." Here's another quote: "Yahoo also insists it does business only with adware companies that adhere to best practices..."
It seems to me that Yahoo cannot compete, so it is trying every trick to stay alive.
Not real news: AOL and Yahoo and MSN will merge. The combined company will be called CyberHell.
Yahoo's Reputation (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Yahoo's Reputation (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://sonikmatter.com/)
If the US government had asked them to turn over email for accounts that originated in the US and were maintained on US servers, and the courts agreed with this decision -- they'd turn it over too...just the same way you'd roll if the gov't and the court system told you to do something.
What? You think that just because they are a US company that they don't need to follow the laws in countries they do business?
Again, I don't agree with it either...but so long as they maintain a physical business presence there, they need to follow the law like anyone else.
you're a fucking hypocrite (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Monday November 27 2006, @04:43PM)
I really, really doubt the police in China told Yahoo what the investigation was about; you know, police are like that. They just demand information, and the law compels you to obey.
Perhaps we should have a trade embargo against China? That is, logically, the only way to go following your logic. If you operate in China, you have to follow the law. If you don't follow the law, you can't operate in China. The law, in your opinion(and mine too, certainly), violates the peoples' civil rights.
So, how about we stop all trade with China. Seems to be working just wonderfully for the people in Cuba...
Look, Yahoo isn't personally accountable for the actions of the Chinese government. The authorities demanded information and Yahoo obeyed the law. Did they even know what the investigation was about? It's not like the executives at Yahoo said, "No let's see. Who's civil rights can we violate today?" Give us a fucking break.
This is a political matter that deserves attention. When we have some politicians that aren't mouth breathing shit eaters, maybe it can be properly addressed. And perhaps when we damand the same of ourselves that we demand of others, we won't look like fucking hypocrites.
Actvely? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm joking!
In a perfect world... (Score:1)
(http://www.digidroid.com/)
In a perfect world they'd be running servers with free Linux and free bandwidth and no ads so everyone could P2P all day...
Dude, this isn't how the real world works. Folks really emotional about what Yahoo is doing could surely start their own portal conforming to their own standards of what is right and good.
However, after investing all their engery in it for some time they would realize, as Yahoo does, at the end of the day you still have to put food on the table.
We all have a choice if we find something we don't like-- navigate elsewhere right?
Is Yahoo actvely Supporting Adware? (Score:1)
(http://ngyahloon.blogspot.com/)
Yahoo! sucks (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Friday October 08 2004, @09:51AM)
Yahoo (Score:1)
How Yahoo Funds Spyware (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.benedelman.org/)
How Yahoo Funds Spyware [benedelman.org]
I post screenshots and packet logs showing how Yahoo ads get syndicated into notorious spyware -- Direct Revenue, eXact Advertising, 180solutions, and some smaller players too (SideFind, Slotchbar, etc.).
Went to Business Weeks site and got a pop-up! (Score:1)
Speaking of unrelated bundling... (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Hello Kettle? Your Black! (Score:1)
Who put this article together? I mean, wouldn't you want to not be seen as supporting pop ups when your running an "expose" on other sites and thier affinity for pop ups?
Meanwhile, Yahoo stamps their crap on Flickr (Score:4, Interesting)
Just wait till the rest of Flickr gets the Yahoo treatment.
http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/flickr_signup_
...perhaps not what the engineers want... (Score:2)
It's the same case at Microsoft, I've noticed. The engineers tend to be do-no-evil kind of folk yet market forces elsewhere dictate otherwise. Go figure.
Yahoo Owns Spyware Companies (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://teasphere.wordpress.com/)
Worked for /. (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Thursday July 07 2005, @09:59AM)
Is Yahoo Actively Supporting Adware? (Score:1)
(http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=1780)
Zawodny's comments taken out of context (Score:2, Interesting)
Twisted comments (Score:2, Informative)
Re:huh (Score:2, Funny)
(http://www.aceticket.com/)
Re:huh? (Score:2)
(http://willerz.org/)
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