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SPA-3000 Review/Guide: Affordable Home PBX
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on Mon May 09, 2005 12:36 PM
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Kerbo writes "Seems every few days there is another news item about Asterisk PBX or Asterisk@Home, the open-source PBX system and associated installer package. You may have even been wondering what equipment you need to get started. The Geek Gazette has posted a review of the Sipura SPA-3000 ATA/Gateway with a complete setup guide on configuring it to work with Asterisk. This makes a very cost-effective way to get started by using your existing phone line as a trunk into the PBX."
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I remember my first affordable PBX (Score:4, Funny)
ignorant question (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/currentlyoffline...)
Re:ignorant question (Score:4, Funny)
Hand over your geek card. We do things not because we have to, but because we can.
Re:ignorant question (Score:5, Interesting)
I have a POTS line and I have a VOIP account, both of which terminate on my Asterisk box.
In addition to my normal house phone I have a GrandStream SIP phone. Either phone can make or answer calls and each phone can call each other. (Handy for calling downstairs from the office to order another beer!)
I get voicemail, call hold, call parking, music on hold.
Although I haven't set it up yet, I can have it answer my fax calls, convert the fax to a PDF and email it to me.
I get the ability to route my calls depending on where I'm calling. For example, calls to cell-phones, 1800 numbers and emergency calls go out my POTS line. All other calls go out on my VOIP account. As most of my family live in the US (I live in Ireland) I make a huge saving on the cost of those calls.
By way of a proof-of-concept for my employer (in the financial services industry) I even wrote a Telephone Banking application in Perl for Asterisk.
Although I make savings on my calls and get added functionality, the main reason I use Asterisk is for control over my telecoms. Apart from that, it's cool!
Re:ignorant question (Score:5, Informative)
(http://tpno-co.org/)
1) Voicemail. Someone leaves a message, the pbx emails it to you.
2) VoIP usability. Once the line makes it into my pbx, regardless of how, it's mine. I go on vacation? Cool, I just pack up my phone and take it with me.
Those are just two off the top of my head, I'm sure I could think of more were I to really focus on it.
Re:ignorant question (Score:5, Funny)
Agreed my fellow obese American!
Re:ignorant question (Score:5, Interesting)
But why? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:But why? (Score:5, Funny)
To impress chicks, of course.
Tax Deduction (Score:2, Funny)
Asterisk. (Score:2, Informative)
i wonder.... (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://hypatia.ca/ | Last Journal: Friday November 05 2004, @01:38AM)
Re:i wonder.... (Score:4, Informative)
(http://tpno-co.org/)
Price (Score:5, Informative)
(http://thepeckfamily.us/ | Last Journal: Saturday November 17, @01:31AM)
The Cost Savings Here Could be Major (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The Cost Savings Here Could be Major (Score:4, Insightful)
Digium (the company behind Asterisk) is obviously targeting the "larger than SOHO" business market - 18 ports and up. They sell a 4-port T1 card that gives you 92+ voice channels (depending on your circuit type.) Sangoma also is getting into the Asterisk / voice market with their own T1 cards.
Telco is it's own little world. You can be a really good networking / server person and be a fish out of water when it comes to deploying a PBX. Some people really don't understand that, then get all frustrated when they try to deploy an asterisk system all by themselves, have problems, then start bad mouthing it. But you don't have to go it alone. There are lots of consultants that can help. You wouldn't buy a $750K Nortel phone system and install it all by yourself would you?
For SoHo people, google for "asterisk at home." It can be fairly easy.
This will be very useefull for small businesses (Score:4, Interesting)
You insensitive clod (Score:5, Funny)
Asterix@home (Score:2, Funny)
And, coming soon, Obelix@home, which will attempt to genetically alter recipients to be permanently endowed with these abilities.
Warning, may cause lowered intelligence, anti-authoritarianism and increased risk of obesity.
Missing a crucial piece of hardware (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/)
I can not seem to find a piece of hardware that will generate a dial tone on 16 or 24 different ports. I'm looking for one switch-type looking device, preferably rack mountable, that will take however many phones lines, and connect them via whatever to an Asterisk PBX.
As of right now we put a bunch of the Sipura SPA-1001M [geekgazette.com] in our back room plugged into our router and punched down to the 66 block going to all of the phone sockets in the offices.
Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
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Fairfax Underground: Where Fairfax County, VA comes out to play [fairfaxunderground.com]
Re:Missing a crucial piece of hardware (Score:5, Informative)
(http://nothingimportant.net/)
A SOHO solution? (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://marshonsmacs.blogspot.com/)
I hope this is pitched as a SOHO solution. I also hope it fails. Trying to bolt a phone menu system on to POTS is like trying to bolt a security system on to Windows. Sure you can do it, but you shouldn't - it just makes the user experience dismal and worries consumers. It's bad enough that they charge you to keep you on hold, never mind charge you to put you through to the right dept. Our tech team uses an Asterix system to put you through to the right dept. There are 4 of them in the there and they all answer the phone regardless of what button you press... WTF?
What's next? SOHO phone support outsourcing software? - Enter your script, provide a national rate number and some friendly will instantly start annoying your customers with broken english and massive phone lag too!
Re:A SOHO solution? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.kraiken.com/)
Asterisk is one of several different VoIP open-source / freeware software PBX solutions. One of the things you can do is program a phone menu system into it. It is I admit somewhat of a black art still to actually configure Asterisk but if you can get the hang of it, it is very powerful. If you don't like it, try one of the others. It runs on many platforms, some with hardware limitations and of course the underlying security as a whole. Once a call is in your PBX you can then of course program it to do anything that you can devise.
I personally think the hardware adaptors are expensive for any number/combination of ports (FXO - foreign exchange office and FXS - foreign exchange station - see http://www.voip-info.org/ [voip-info.org] for a wiki), especially here in the UK if you source locally. I do like the Sipura/Vegastream adaptors for their hardware simplicity though. It may be much better to consider IP phones such as GrandStream or SnomPhone if you are starting from scratch. A mixture of the two is of course what most people will do if they have relatively expensive analogue DTMF telephone handsets.
YMMV especially if you have to deal with a non-US type telephone system as you will need some kind of adaptor at least a one point in your network.
Obviously your IT guys just don't want to be bothered all the time. If you get past the menus then you must have a good (read important) reason to require their time. Time is money especially to four guys supporting many more poeple than perhaps they should. Not many have escaped IT cutbacks.
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This is just being lazy
Better Link (Score:5, Informative)
http://geekgazette.com/index2.php?option=com_conte nt&task=view&id=28&Itemid=26&pop=1&page=0 [geekgazette.com]
But for my home PBX... the bandwidth? (Score:2)
(http://members.cox.net/jmccorm)
I mean, I can't have someone on the phone making a call, all the sudden to go into low rez choppy digital speech because someone else decided to download the latest Linux distro.
You are correct. (Score:5, Informative)
Vonage (Packet5 may be now as well, I can't recall) also offers an all-in-one solution that's a router and an ATA in one box. You can also pick up the combos yourself (Linksys makes 'em), but they tend to be tied to one specific service -- so do your homework before you sink the cash on a combination ATA and router.
What needs to happen now. (Score:5, Interesting)
Very easy sale.
Cheaper/better FXO/FXS from Grandstream (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://kriston.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday March 22 2007, @09:27AM)
Sipura units seem to have much more provisioning support but Grandstream supports the same provisioning protocols. This can help with large deployments where you want to automatically assign extension numbers from a central server.
Again, this a new product that just went into production and might save you a few bucks over the Sipura in quantity. See http://voipsupply.com/ [voipsupply.com] and http://www.grandstream.com/ [grandstream.com] for some more detail.
Kris
Affordable PBX? Nortel...... (Score:2, Informative)
Nortel Cics or Mics are the most common, they work great, have zero noise/fans. Autoattendant (on most models - or with the Star Talk Flash), voice mail, Fax reroute etc. Great little systems, why go Asterisk?
I love all tech - just cause it's old/experienced don't abandon it.
I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one... (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Friday February 18 2005, @03:11PM)
Actual affordable PBX (Score:1)
(http://doombob.com/)
Now all are VoIP upgradeable. Plus they can expand to suit your growing business' needs.
phone line as a trunk (Score:2, Funny)
(Last Journal: Thursday December 08 2005, @04:33PM)
Jeeze.
someone humor a question from a noob... (Score:2)
"no, *you* couldn't configure Asterisk" is probably the right answer, but pretend for a second that I could. Is this possible?
Stop trying to see a *big picture* (Score:4, Informative)
I have 1 POTS line, 3 IP phones, and a plain old cordless plugged into an FXS port on my asterisk server. Keep in mind this is a collection of parts that have grown from testing. All that would be needed for this is either 2 analog phones with FXS, or 1 analog and 1 IP phone etc etc you get the idea.
I get a regular phone call, my home phones all ring, there's no answer, it goes to voicemail, people can pick who they want to leave voicemail for. I get a copy of the
2 of the IP phones are at home, 1 is Overseas where I have family. My wife returns back for a visit every year. Most of the year it is the line she uses to keep in touch with family (once she plugs in the second box over there for me, she can use it to dial out to her friends over there as a local call as well)
While she is back visiting, she can try to call me via IP. Failing that, dial 9 and the number and dial out from our landline to my mobile phone, for example (which, coincidentally, is not always great when you're "killing time at the pub") . When she is away, she uses this to keep in touch with others here, and to continue and other local business calls she needs to make.
I can also dial home, hit a key to dial out before voicemail rolls in, and reach my overseas IP phone.
This isn't an overly complicated setup, cost little money to setup, and created an extremely useful way to keep in contact. Don't turn on all the bells and whistles and you don't scare callers (Do they *really* need dial by name?) The situation I use it in is nothing off the wall, and it's simple to use. This doesn't even *start* to cover the practical applications it has WITHOUT being an overbearing system.
For a small consulting business, or mobile worker, there's a huge benefit. Even for a family, there's a major convenience. And according to my call detail records, in under a year I've already paid off anything spent in savings from overseas calling (and more). The rest of the ongoing savings can go to my beer fund. You can call it pointless if you want. My pint glass and I would disagree with you though.
Expensive (Score:1)
VoIP, QoS and OnDo SIP Server (Score:4, Informative)
(http://petelee.blogspot.com/)
Granted, your ISP probably doesn't care if your traffic is marked EF, but would prevent PCs on your local network from clobbering your bandwidth during a call.
Also, check out OnDo SIP Server from Brekeke. I play with it in my VoIP lab, and find that it's a find piece of software for quick n' dirty SIP setups. It's free for non-commercial users.
The slightly more adventurous can try Asterisk@Home which has a streamlined setup.
Yes - every few days... (Score:2)
(http://www.ancar.org/)
... and on Slashdot, they're often the same ones!
Another cheap pseudo-PBX (Score:1)
How about this series of devices: http://www.digitone.com/ [digitone.com]
I've been using one now for several years with great results! It lets me do the following:
And all for around 100 bucks!
fxs from voice modem? (Score:1, Insightful)
Anyone got an idea if it could be done?
* is still way over my head... (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Thursday September 09 2004, @09:38PM)
Do most people need a PBX at home? Hell, I'd be happy if I could get something that did Fax to PDF and voicemail while sitting between the incoming analog telephone line and my (inside the house) telephone network. Do I need a computer and all this crap for that?
Can someone help? (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.palal.net/)
Costs Might Not Scale Like You Think (Score:3, Insightful)
The real cost of the phone systems are in the desksets which vary in features and cost but in a medium small office the PBX is a small percentage of the cost.
Consider a 30 station setup with 8 lines. The 30 phones would be somewhere between 6000 - 12000 depending on model. (you probably would not do elcheapo $75 ebay phones).
The {insert brand name here} PBX would be more but the asterisk would be probably $2000 (including cards). And then, no matter what system you choose, comes the programing, which should be about the same no matter what.
The thing that asterisk provides is the ability for everyone to use it. It is also exteremly accessable.
community voip service? (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Monday January 13 2003, @07:09PM)
Is there a network of people doing this?
Convenient. My mom just called, asked me... (Score:2)
Re:It will never stop. (Score:1)
(http://www.greeneggpage.com/ | Last Journal: Monday October 09 2006, @12:36PM)
Re:P.O.S (Score:2)
Also, I don't have expansion slots, and my always-on home box is running Windows w/ coLinux (so the Linux side doesn't have direct access to the PCI bus -- but the fiancee gets to play The Sims).