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Two Trojans For Mac OS X
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on Wed Jun 25, 2008 02:31 AM
from the knock-knock-who's-there-trojan dept.
from the knock-knock-who's-there-trojan dept.
I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "F-Secure is reporting that there are two new Mac OS X trojans. The first is just a proof-of-concept from the MacShadows people that takes advantage of the unpatched ARDAgent vulnerability to get root access when run by the user. The second relies on social engineering: it's a poker game that requests the user's password, claiming to have detected a 'corrupt preference file.' It then takes control of the computer. Now that the source of the proof-of-concept is publicly available, we can expect that future trojans won't just politely request your password."
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Mac OS X Root Escalation Through AppleScript 359 comments
An anonymous reader writes "Half the Mac OS X boxes in the world (confirmed on Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and 10.5 Leopard) can be rooted through AppleScript: osascript -e 'tell app "ARDAgent" to do shell script "whoami"'; Works for normal users and admins, provided the normal user wasn't switched to via fast user switching. Secure? I think not." On the other hand, since this exploit seems to require physical access to the machine to be rooted, you might have some other security concerns to deal with at that point, like keeping the intruder from raiding your fridge on his way out.
Submission: Two Trojans For Mac OSX by Anonymous Coward
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users (Score:5, Funny)
Let the flamewars begin!
Two Trojans For Mac OS X Users (Score:5, Funny)
One for you, one for your partner.
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Re:Two Trojans For Mac OS X Users (Score:5, Insightful)
This exploit is done via AppleScript and the Apple Remote Desktop Agent, which should hopefully give you some kind of hint as to why this particular issue is not going to be a problem on Linux.
OSX is certified yes, and presumably some of the basic shell commands will be exactly the same at a source level as in Linux, but in the Linux world patches are uploaded to repositories pretty quickly and users can then download updates immediately. Apple users (of which I am one) have to wait for Apple to release updates, unless they compile everything themself. I don't know if there's an equivalent of apt-get for OSX, I haven't looked..
Then there's the fact that 99.99% (number pulled out of my ass obviously) of exploitable bugs will have already been patched in the common OS level commands by now simply because they are being used in so many different distros. Sure there is the odd high profile bug, I remember one a few weeks ago on /. about a bug in some file listing function, though I don't think it was actually a security risk as opposed to just an annoying bug.
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Re:Two Trojans For Mac OS X Users (Score:4, Interesting)
I wrote this a few years ago. Can you see how it works?
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
($,,$",$_,@_)=reverse qw(164 163 165 112),",\n",split '','\ ';
my $music='Art';
my($swing,$rock)=q
s/hacker/performer/; # another creator of art...
my $blues=~/^.(\w+).*#\s(\w+)/;
my $jazz=substr((grep m($music)=>qx($^X$,-v))[$[],$?,scalar @_);
my $pop=eval qq("\\@_");
print $pop, $rock, $jazz, $swing;
print;
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Worst. Trojan. Ever. (Score:5, Funny)
Hey guys, I've got a great new idea for a worm, I'm gonna start a e-mail chain letter that tells people they'll have bad 7 years bad luck if they don't forward the e-mail to 10 friends and send me their root passwords, IP address and their bank account and credit card numbers. It's sure to be a smashing success!
Re:Worst. Trojan. Ever. (Score:4, Funny)
Just like a Mac fan. Complain that 3rd party Trojans aren't good enough for them.
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Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Insightful)
We have detected your Slashdot account preferences have been corrupted.
To fix this, please post your user id and password in response to this message, and one of our customer service operatives will fix your account and recover posting privileges as soon as possible.
Yours Sincerely, Trojan
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
I need my preferences fixed. My password is 12345.
Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:4, Funny)
That sounds like a combination an idiot would have on his luggage.
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
1 2 3 4 5? That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
User Id: Anonymous Coward
Password is blank.
I hope you fix my preferences soon, my karma never seems to go up, no matter how much I get modded up.
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
O/T but have you noticed how if you post sensitive information like your password here SlashCode filters it to X's. Very nice idea.
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Funny)
<Cthon98> ********* see!
<AzureDiamond> hunter2
<AzureDiamond> doesnt look like stars to me
<Cthon98> <AzureDiamond> *******
<Cthon98> thats what I see
<AzureDiamond> oh, really?
<Cthon98> Absolutely
<AzureDiamond> you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
<AzureDiamond> haha, does that look funny to you?
<Cthon98> lol, yes. See, when YOU type hunter2, it shows to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that
<Cthon98> yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> awesome!
<AzureDiamond> wait, how do you know my pw?
<Cthon98> er, I just copy pasted YOUR ******'s and it appears to YOU as hunter2 cause its your pw
<AzureDiamond> oh, ok.
(For those that don't want to copy and paste)
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Re:Proof of Concept Slashdot Trojan (Score:5, Insightful)
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Lame (Score:5, Funny)
Apple spin (Score:4, Funny)
iTrojan, custom trojan, personally designed by Steve Jobs' evil twin Rodney Jobs, the UI would be beautiful, white, sterile. Mass infection through Starbucks WiFi.
Re:Apple spin (Score:5, Funny)
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Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
We go through this about twice a year with the same results every time. "Someone" releases a trojan, presumably as proof that Mac OS X has security holes. Then everyone gets whipped in a frenzy and ultimately no one is infected by the damn thing in the first place. Mac OS X does have its holes (some of which are quite unreasonable), but trying to scare the users (in to buying anti-virus software, perhaps?) gets tiring after a while. No one has yet to do anything that matters with these trojans and security vulnerabilities, the real troublemakers continue to target Windows.
Mac OS X's day will definitely come at some point, but if people keep crying wolf every time someone whips up a theoretical and entirely implausible situation, no one is going to believe the security community once some black-hat does finally decide to attack the Macs.
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The poker game trojan sounds pretty lame too. The program must be downloaded and run first which pops open a quasi-phishing "error: type your password here to fix" message. Infection vectors seem key to how fast these things spread. Having a file mac users have to manually download first is slow/weak and i doubt the downloaded file would be manually copied to another machine and run.
You'd be amazed how dumb users are (Score:5, Funny)
I swear, some people go out of their way to infect their machines. The one that stands out in my mind the most was a virus for Windows a number of years ago. Came as an attachment in a message that said "Hi I send you the file in order to have your advice." So never mind the bad grammar and such, but before campus got hit we got wind of the thing and sent out an e-mail message to all users saying "Don't open this shit it's bad news." One of the users called in saying she was having problems with e-mail, we came and looked. The "problem" was that she wasn't an admin and so, thankfully, couldn't run the damn virus.
Or somewhat more recently we had a virus that slipped by our e-mail scanner. It did so by sending itself in encrypted zip files, and then putting the decryption key in the message. That meant you had to open the mail, save the zip, open the zip, enter the code, extract the executable, and run it. Two users did just that and got infected.
So while it seems armature to do a "Download this then enter your password," kind of trojan, that shit works waaaay more than you'd think.
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I completely agree with you, and I too think that Mac OS X's day will definitely come at some point, and that will be the time Mac has a bit more market share. At the time being it just doesn't make sense to write a large scale virus/spambot/trojan for the mac platform.
But anyway, just to know that a Trojan is "possible" on the mac should make the mac users aware that if someone targets their machine they are just as vulnerable as a windows user (executing untrusted code locally is just bad on any platform)
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
Except that worms for linux would find most servers on the net vulnerable- do you realize the potential for mischief?
In fact worms for linux were produced.
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
Do you have any figures to back that claim up? Most servers are looked after by admins, and any admin worth their salt will at least put their machines behind a firewall, opening up only those ports that are absolutely necessary.
Yes, some will be vulnerable, but as another poster points out the number will be utterly insignificant compared to the number of networked clients running Windows. The target simply isn't big enough to be worth the effort.
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Re:Yawn (Score:4, Insightful)
This made me very sad, and I stopped working in security. I came to the true realization that demolishing a moron's bad work only made the moron build it back exactly where it was. Lazy admins don't fix vulnerability, they make the path around them.
Disclaimer: I've met some brilliant admins in this world. Unfortunately, they were only a handful.
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Re:Yawn (Score:4, Interesting)
You're almost right, but not quite.
Today there is government backing behind state of the art malware, and it is a lot more sophisticated than you give it credit for. Todays black hats are guns for hire, owning vast botnets, often they are only loosely affiliated with government agencies.
The effectiveness of botnets is primarily measured by their ability to infiltrate and function WITHOUT doing any detectable harm. The vast percentage of compromised machines are dormant, and do NO HARM, they are only a very occasionally test fired to assess their operational status.
The primary purpose of botnets is NOT monetary, it is political. They are rarely used to directly make money.
Just take a look at what happened to Estonia for example...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/17/topstories3.russia [guardian.co.uk] [guardian.co.uk]
Back in the 60's when the components that make up the internet were designed, the main concern was designing a network of computers that could communicate even when under attack during a time of war. Today governments have the exact opposite concern.
The only defense mechanisms that work against todays malware are distributed ones, short of disconnecting themselves from the internet, individuals have no hope, you just simply won't suspect the mechanism that will be used to comprimise your machine.
This is something white hats are only just coming to grips with.
Todays hackers will be looking to gain deep penetration into aspiring OS platforms as early as they possibly can, to ensure they are in there from day one. Macs are easily popular enough to attract the interest of black hats, if you're on any machine directly or indirectly connected to the internet you should be worried about malware, Macs are definitely not immue.
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Interesting)
Even if you think of it, the potential for profit is just too great. If you can harvest 20,000 credit cards, and only take $5 from each one (call it a service charge or something), will the people notice? If you can do it with 20,000, why not a million? Can you not imagine that this would be tempting to people? It is. Horribly tempting.
Another example we had on slashdot here a few years ago was a story about botnets being used to DDOS offshore gambling sites, and then ask extortion money to stop the attack. Here, check it out. [slashdot.org] There are many ways to make money with a botnet. Of course spam is another common way. Hacking is big business.
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
Mac's "I need your password" dialog is better done and, more importantly, a lot less common than windos UAC. As such, most Mac users don't roll their eyes and mutter "get on with it already, moron" when it pops up. In fact, when it pops up, I either expected it to, or it surprises me enough that I actually read what it's about.
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Re:Yawn (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Yawn (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Yawn (Score:5, Funny)
"Maybe a boat of Tahiitian hookers shipwrecks on the island?"
So you're the guy with the device that can read my dreams. Please stop.
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Grrr... (Score:5, Insightful)
The ARDAgent vulnerability is pretty serious and stupid, but social engineering is not OS specific. The "poker game" could just as easily be implemented on Windows or Linux.
There is nothing that any OS can do to prevent trojans. (At least not without seriously limiting the functionality of legitimate programs.)
Slashdot's own summarry of the ARDAgent vulnerability included a "proof-of-concept" it is trivially easy to exploit and should be fixed ASAP.
There is no news here.
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However, once you have convinced the user to download and attempt to run the program, it is a short step to getting them to approve administrator access.
By "seriously limiting the functionality of legitimate programs" I was referring to systems such as Bitfrost [laptop.org] which, while providing strong protection against Trojans, also makes certain classes of application almost impossible to implement (i.e. a mass Flickr uploader or an FTP client).
Society is not an OS X vulnerability (Score:5, Insightful)
For crying out loud people, the poker game one is applicable to any system you want to code it on! What does this have to do with being a Mac OS X security hole? It would work on Linux, BSD, RandomOSMadeUpOnTheSpurOfTheMoment (Infinium labs).
Re:Society is not an OS X vulnerability (Score:5, Insightful)
Do you really think the average computer user is a "standard" sysadmin who knows "standard sysadmin stuff"?
Most people who buy computers want and expect it to "just work" rather than to spend time learning how to maintain the system. The ideal system, for them, is maintenance free. Funnily enough, one computer manufacturer in particular specializes in the whole "just works" concept. Their customers definitely do not expect to have to set up cronjobs to copy files across the network to a secure RAID server in the closet.
Can you guess which manufacturer that is?
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Re:Society is not an OS X vulnerability (Score:4, Insightful)
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FUDmeisters (Score:5, Insightful)
I wouldn't call this crying wolf (Score:5, Insightful)
More like warning that just because you live in a good neighbourhood, doesn't mean you should leave your door unlocked. Too many people who have Macs take the lax approach of "Well Macs don't get hacked so I don't have to worry." Ok well maybe they generally don't (though I've seen it happen due to immense user stupidity) but you should still assume that it can happen, and have security to prevent it.
I'm all about proactive security, not reactive. Don't wait until something is a problem, identify weaknesses and fix that shit BEFORE someone exploits it. If nobody ever tries, ok great. However if someone does, you are glad you set up security.
As I said it is the difference between living in a low crime neighbourhood and a high one. You live in a low crime neighbourhood and figure "Oh well there's no crime here, so I don't need to bother with a door lock or alarm." Ok, that's great right up until the criminals try, then you are screwed since you had no security. Well someone who lives in a high crime neighbourhood might have to put up with attempts more often but if they have their doors locked, windows barred, alarm on and so on it doesn't matter because their security stops it.
Computers are the same way. Just because you run a platform that isn't targeted much, doesn't mean you should just ignore security. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst, then you are ready no matter what.
It is like backups. Backups are a waste of time and money when your system has always been reliable... Right up until the moment when it isn't and you lose all your shit. You hope you never need the backups, and most won't computers are pretty reliable, but you make them anyways just in case. You prepare for the worst, even if it is unlikely, so that if it hits you aren't screwed.
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No, non-password variants won't appear (Score:4, Insightful)
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I think you misunderstand how it works on OS X
When an application asks for a password to get admin rights, the user is presented with a dialog, but unlike in Vista, actually needs to type the password to continue. You can't just blindly click "OK".
Re:An unpopular opinion.... (Score:4, Interesting)
It's more the impersonation I was talking about.
In windows you can launch a process impersonating a windows user if you want to run under different credentials. So with the string value from the "Enter Pa33w0rd n00b" window, you could in XP, for instance run a new process under "root" privs, and hose the system however you wanted (assuming the password was ok). In Vista this is impossible.
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Re:"Politely request your password"... Meh (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:"Politely request your password"... Meh (Score:5, Insightful)
That is exactly what a trojan is!
A trojan is a piece of software that appears to be benign or otherwise safe or desirable, but in fact is malign. It may or may not also act as advertised.
A virus is a piece of software that piggy-backs on other executables, "infecting" them with its own code and modifying them so that when they are launched, the virus code is also run. They spread by searching for and infecting other executables on the machine.
A worm is self-propagating, and does not require user intervention. It actively seeks out and exploits a given vulnerability or vulnerabilities, using them to covertly gain access to the machine.
Of the three broad types of malware, the only one that does not require the user to manually run it is a worm.
And if a program requests the root password and the user gives it, is this the OS's fault?
No, of course not - but you'd be amazed at the number of people who blame Windows even for such social engineering tricks, or believe that if we only all switched to Linux malware would be a thing of the past. The weakest link in any computer system is the user, and there's little or nothing an OS can do to protect itself from a naive or malicious user armed with the root/admin password. While this is a non-story, it does at least demonstrate that the same is true of other OSes than Windows.
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Re:OS X has no functional root (Score:4, Informative)
Root on OS X is off by default out-of-the-box, isn't it?
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The real "Next Step for Mac (& Windows) Users" (Score:5, Informative)
History shows us that even the smartest of users can catch malware.
It's been 17 years since the last time I had to remove a virus from my own computer, even when that computer's been unpatched Windows 2000 connected to the Internet. In the years that I was network and security admin and had control of the network, the only time we had any systems infected was when a user had either downloaded and run a file (that is, they were social-engineered, and in 10 years only one person came to me with an infected laptop after doing that twice) or they had violated my policy banning IE and Outlook at our location.
The potential for infection if you avoid software that supports automatic execution of remote content is very very small, even on Windows. The reason that Windows has a high infection rate is because of IE and Outlook, not simply because it's popular.
If you're on a Mac, and use Safari, here's the next steps you should take:
(1) Go into preferences and make sure "Open 'Safe' Files after Downloading" is disabled.
(2) Get a standalone FTP client and use one of the third-party LaunchServices editors (look for internet access preference panes) and change the default application for FTP: URLs from Finder to something else.
(3) Use Tinkertool or equivalent to disable Dashboard.
#1 is the most important. #2 and #3 don't allow automatic execution of untrusted content, but they do make social engineer ing easier.
If you use a Gecko-based browser like Firefox or Camino, you don't need to worry about these.
If you're on Windows: avoid using any application that uses the Microsoft HTML control to access untrusted content. That includes IE, Outlook (not all versions, any more, but I believe you have to accept the Vista-style UI to avoid it), Windows Media Player, Realplayer, and some Firefox plugins and some versions of Netscape.
In Firefox, Windows or Mac or Linux, always clean out the whitelist for installing extensions after you install an extension... the installer is an autoexecution mechanism, and there have been exploits that took advantage of that even if you don't approve the install dialog.
The scary part is that most Mac OS users think they can't catch malware because they're smart enough not to install it.
At the moment that's not far from the truth. You can avoid catching malware by being smart enough to avoid running it, on Windows or OS X, if you exercise some care in the applications you use, and how they're configured. It's harder on Windows, but it's still possible.
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