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Air Force Emails Sensitive Information to Tourism Site
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Zonk
on Wed Mar 05, 2008 08:14 AM
from the that's-a-pretty-spectacular-oopsie dept.
from the that's-a-pretty-spectacular-oopsie dept.
Khuffie writes "The US Air Force has been sending sensitive information, including flight plans for Air Force One, to a website promoting the town of Mildenhall in Suffolk. When told of the error by the site's owner, the Air Force did not attempt to fix it at first. When reminded at a later time, instead of fixing the issue, they advised the owner to 'block unrecognizable addresses from his domain and have an auto-reply sent reminding people of the official Mildenhall domain and blocked his website from access on base.'"
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The Airforce... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The Airforce... (Score:4, Funny)
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Military intelligence, it would seem.. (Score:4, Funny)
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At every single Air Force base I was stationed, the network staff was entirely comprised of should-be retirees who had been working for the federal government since the stone age
Re:The Airforce... (Score:4, Informative)
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You're crazy (Score:5, Insightful)
Who among us would be happy to have Dick Cheney as president?
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Re:You're crazy (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:The Airforce... Whooa... (Score:3, Informative)
Personally, when I was in uniform and when I was taken in hand for criticizing a sitting president (84-88, and this happened around 86) I was told (or probably given an implied order) to RESPECT THE MAN IN OFFICE. To hell with that. If an idiot or dunce is in office, call a spade a spade. But, if fools someday (or in the past) take/took office, it would be tragic to not challenge that. I take GREAT offence at being told to unwaveringly GIVE my support for *th
Re:The Airforce... (Score:4, Funny)
'Jesus, that's...'
'Yes. Nine hundred and eleven thousand.'
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Re:The Airforce... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah - nothing against you, but come on. Bill Clinton got caught with an extra-marital affair, and was put up for impeachment for lying under oath about it. The current president lied, manipulated people in positions of authority and created an environment where his business allies could earn billions off of the war and he is not even being investigated. *accountability* Give me a break. Pres Bush Jr is the one who finally showed me the futile light of our current governmental/business systems.
The current president has done more damage to our future than any other force, person or organization in the US's history. There really is a price to pay for the incredible amount of debt we have and the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan. It creates instability in the regions, the world, the markets and it weakens our governments ability to deal with a real crisis when it occurs (and they do occur). Saddam was evil, but not a crisis and through GW's actions, we have given fundamentalism another strong foothold in the Middle East. We can not afford (financially) to stick around long enough in Iraq to fix the problems that are there now.
He has made thousands of people incredibly wealthy (not just wealthy) with his politics. If there has been a President in history who needs to be investigated for the well being of our national future, if not only for the strong potential for serious criminal conduct, it is President Bush Jr.
Accountability is only possible with transparency and memory. People have to be able to see and then want to remember what they have seen. As we have neither in sufficient quantity, we do not have accountability. I think Bush will walk away from this a wealthy man with no fear of being prosecuted for what he has done.
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Re:The Airforce... (Score:5, Interesting)
Military spending is a huge contributor to the US's debt problems, and anything that reduces the efficiency of the military contributes to the problem. Consider how expensive the air force is to maintain -- when it comes time to curtail the military budget, the air force has a lot of low-hanging fruit.
Security breaches and awareness of systemic ineptitude will just increase the likelihood that the air force will be targeted with more cuts.
Never mind the fact the a security breach, if taken advantage of by the wrong people, could be *very* expensive.
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Re:The Airforce... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Did you expect the Air Force to be 100% efficient? (Score:3, Interesting)
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It's no reflection on the quality or caliber of people and projects in the AF.
When your goal is to pick fruit from a tree, the low-hanging ones are the easiest to reach and thus the first to get picked.
When your goal is to cut costs, the low-hanging fruit are the ones that are easy to cut because they are 1) big-ticket items where a small reduction in qty yields a large cost-savings and 2) there is little direct elimination of jobs.
Naval yards, for examp
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If you read the article you would know that sensitive information, including flight plans for the president and military tactics were received. So with that information it may not be such a challenge.
Re:The Airforce... (Score:5, Insightful)
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You only need to send stuff encrypted if you have something to hide
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Re:The Airforce and no IS Security (Score:4, Insightful)
--cally
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Re:The Airforce and no IS Security (Score:5, Interesting)
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Why didn't a "Communications Squadron" offer to work with the domain owner to resolve these problems?
Why didn't someone just update the distribution list in Exchange? How freakin' hard is that?
Besides, these emails should have been going over SIPR (secret military VPN), not NIPR (public Internet). The SIPR machines can't route email to NIPR networks, so the problem never would've happened in the first place if proper OPSEC had been followed. Someone needs an Article 15 for this.
(I'm a former IT1 in the Navy, and worked with Air Force guys in Operation Northern Watch, and I can state that all of the Air Fo
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Vietnam and North Korea had weapons support from china. iran and North Korea wouldn't last three months on their own. Palenstine can't keep isreal out, let alone anyone else. I think you mean Pakistan. Pakistan would fight bravely and even win a few battles but would be overcome.
China,India, and Russia though would. Any fight with either is just stupid. We walked over Iraq, and afganistan because they didn't have weapon support from russia or China.
Actualyy, I think you couldn't even attack Iran right now, because you wasted all the high-tech weapons in Afghanistan and Iraq. How many Tomahawks does the US have left?
Re:The Airforce... (Score:5, Insightful)
Y'all have to look past the rhetoric coming from both sides of the political aisle and see the situation for what it is: fubar'd.
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Wait a minute. (Score:5, Interesting)
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Tag line is now "Air - Space - Cyberspace".
Send in the B2's (Score:5, Funny)
Conspiracy! (Score:5, Funny)
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You know why the democrats haven't had Bush impeached? Because they'd rather have him than President Evil.
USAF 1, british civilians 0 (Score:3, Insightful)
I see from TFA that the owner finally took his site off-line because of the problem. So the USAF probably considers the problem solved. Another triumph for American diplomacy.
Stable doors (Score:3, Insightful)
The Cheney Effect (Score:5, Funny)
The Cheney Effect is spreading!
OPSEC and COMSEC (Score:4, Insightful)
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Join the Air Force! (Score:5, Funny)
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E-mail is a postcard (Score:5, Insightful)
If the Air Force is sending that info over unencrypted e-mail, they have bigger problems than just the e-mail going to the wrong domain.
This kind of makes me suspicious that he article might just be hyperbole.
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If flight plans of Air Force One are being sent over a public network in plaintext, it doesn't matter in whose mailbox they end up really.
Hmm (Score:4, Insightful)
Nope, I dont think so.
Re:Hmm (Score:5, Funny)
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preemptive move (Score:3, Insightful)
isn't it more effective if air force domain names are removed from world wide dns ?
BBC... (Score:5, Interesting)
New way to leak classified "news" (Score:3, Funny)
It has come to the attention of the Air Force that it is likely your e-mail servers may have inadvertently received confidential Air Force e-mails. These e-mails were sent in error. We beg and plead with you to not consider this a "leak" to your organization. These "leaks" will arrive to you though regular channels. As you may have received several thousand e-mails we ask that you forget everything that you read and delete everything. If you print a story about this and decide to publish some example e-mails, please contact us as we will help you find some really juicy e-mails. Again, we did not do this on purpose.
Since our e-mail servers are already having some serious problems, if you are not the intended recipient, please discard this e-mail immediately. We do not have any serious problems with our e-mail servers. If this is the tourism site again, please redirect these e-mails to major news organizations - and then delete.
Thank you,
US Air Force
Mildenhall Village (Score:3, Interesting)
When I lived in the small Wiltshire village of Mildenhall, we often had convoys of military vehicles being misdelivered.
"Where's the air base?" the lead driver would ask.
"150 miles North East of here!" we'd all reply.
US Air Force is Not the First (Score:5, Interesting)
I have call this one BS (Score:5, Informative)
"It had the notice 'Destroy by any means to prevent capture'," Right, that's absolute crap. One that is not the correct wording. Two its an electronic message, its on your hard drive. Did his computer explode after reading it? I'm sure there are idiots who sent things to his domain. But these just could not be official communications. There are way too many safeguards in place.
People from government ministry of finance offices in African Nations are always send me stuff too.
Lets see some real proof!
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Re:I have call this one BS (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:I have call this one BS (Score:5, Interesting)
When I fist got the domain I had all email to invalid addresses forwarded to my mail box. I quickly found that I was getting the orders of the day for Pendleton Marine Corp base. I replied to the email and was immediately removed from the list. Over the years I got all sorts of official and private email sent to and from the base. But, as far as I can tell *none of it was classified*. Any time I replied and pointed out the problem I got a swift apology and never got an email from that source again. The most fun I had with it was when I accidentally got on a mailing list for retired SIGINT officers. Talk about a great group of highly intelligent and creative people! I am so glad they are our side.
I figured out the the rewriting rules used by a lot of email systems would generate pendleton.com from many misspellings of pendleton.usmc.mil and there was nothing I could do about the problem. So, at first I lived with it.
I finally set up my mail to bounce invalid addresses. I did it because email was becoming more popular I started getting a lot of very private communications meant for Marines and I didn't feel right about invading peoples privacy that way. I have always had a deep respect for the US military and the Marine in particular.
I have to say that the US military can misaddress email as easily as anyone else. So, I believe that part of the story. But, I never saw anything that was even vaguely sensitive (even the SIGINT guys didn't talk about anything sensitive) in the several years I was getting email from the base. I do not believe that part of the story. The Marines were always courteous and on the ball. The kind of people where you can believe that if you looked on heavens scenes, you would find the streets are guarded by United States Marines.
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What's this then?
http://www.airforce.com/ [airforce.com]
Looks real to me - is it fake?
Re:Quick fix (Score:4, Insightful)
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