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Five Ideas That Will Reinvent Computing

Posted by CowboyNeal on Fri Jun 29, 2007 04:18 AM
from the on-the-far-horizon dept.
prostoalex writes "PC Magazine looks at 5 ideas that will reinvent computing. IMAX-quality movies at home with new projectors, a mid-air mouse that requires no flat surface, a home quantum computer, a router-based peer-to-peer system, and a man-made brain all made the list."
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  • by kernel_pat (964314) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:25AM (#19686907) Journal
    "IMAX-quality movies at home with new projectors, a mid-air mouse that requires no flat surface, a home quantum computer, a router-based peer-to-peer system, and a man-made brain all made the list."

    Surely you just need a bloke with a pen and a piece of paper to make a list.
    • Idea #6 is: a better list

      I'd write it but I'm too busy building 22m by 16m screen in my basement.

    • Re:Writing a list (Score:4, Insightful)

      by cgenman (325138) on Friday June 29 2007, @08:46AM (#19688245) Homepage
      This is Why PC Magazine isn't for people who know about computers.

      A: The multiple projector thing is neat, but who is going to buy 12 projecters to have a higher resolution image? The image quality that can be gotten from a single projector basically maxes out the display quality of the average white wall.

      B: Mid-air mice have been around for years as presentation tools and novelties. My company has one that you can use on a tabletop or in the air, as you see fit. The main failing is the nature of the device itself: nobody wants to hold their mouse up in the air for any length of time. It's just not comfortable.

      C: Quantum computing is so far away as to be a joke. We don't even have what could be described as Quantum Calculating. When Bell Labs says things are 20 years out, you know it's not going to be ready for a long, long time.

      D: Router P2P is neat, but could it be described as revolutionary? As described here, it's basically larger-scale caching, with untrusted sources. Even if it worked, it just speeds up the network a few percent.

      E: A man made brain? That's a revolutionary idea! With our deep understanding of the human psyche and physiological complexities, we could whip this problem in no more than 20 years. Why haven't we been working on this since the 60's?
      • Re:Writing a list (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Sepodati (746220) on Friday June 29 2007, @09:14AM (#19688565) Homepage

        A: The multiple projector thing is neat, but who is going to buy 12 projecters to have a higher resolution image? The image quality that can be gotten from a single projector basically maxes out the display quality of the average white wall.

        Someone with $12,000 to waste. There are plenty, I'm sure. So long as this is idiot-proof and projector prices drop, I can see this one really taking off. I've seen many a screen where the projected image is made too large and comes out all pixilated. They'd be better suited by four smaller resolution projectors melded into a single screen of 2x2 images. We'll see.

        B: Mid-air mice have been around for years as presentation tools and novelties. My company has one that you can use on a tabletop or in the air, as you see fit. The main failing is the nature of the device itself: nobody wants to hold their mouse up in the air for any length of time. It's just not comfortable.

        I think this is a little different, though. It's not something you hold up and wave your hand around with. Imagine holding one of those stretchy, squishy balls in your hand. You basically drag that fabric with your thumb over the optical sensor. It'd almost be like holding a little trackball or trackpoint, I guess. I think this would be more comfortable, though. Revolutionary? No really, imo... but a neat idea nontheless.

        ---John Holmes...

  • http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=20978 3,00.asp?hidPrint=true [pcmag.com]

    Idea #6 would be: online articles without numerous page impressions.
  • My Idea... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RuBLed (995686) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:30AM (#19686925)
    A hand-carried fusion reactor, unless you want to take down the grid with those ideas...
    • by maxwell demon (590494) on Friday June 29 2007, @08:18AM (#19687975) Journal

      A hand-carried fusion reactor, unless you want to take down the grid with those ideas...

      Well, add on that list: The closed time loop computer. By sending information to the past, it allows to infinitely speed up software: The result of one step is just sent to the past for preparation of the next step. Since also the final result gets sent into the past, you get your result immediatly. Indeed, you can get your result before you even asked the question!
  • Article Summary (Score:5, Informative)

    by ma11achy (150206) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:36AM (#19686949)
    I took the liberty of copying and pasting the meat of the article here. WAY too many ads and click-thru's for my liking.

    IMAX at Home
    =============
    You thought LAN parties were fun? Get ready for the projector party. At HP Labs, Nelson Chang and Niranjan Damera-Venkata have spent the past few years developing a technology that reinvents the notion of a home theater. With Pluribus, you can build a cineplex-quality image using a handful of ordinary, $1,000 PC projectors--in less time than it takes to pop the popcorn.

    The Midair Mouse
    ================
    Your brand-new wireless mouse? That solves only half the problem. Sure, you're untethered, free to drive your PC from afar. But you still need a flat surface. You may be camped out on the couch or curled up in bed, but you're never more than half an arm's length from an end table or a lap desk.

    Soap goes one step further: It works in midair. With this new-age pointing device, now under development at Microsoft Research, you can navigate your PC using nothing but a bare hand. You can lose the end table and the lap desk. You can even lose the couch and the bed, driving your machine while walking across the room. It's a bit like the Wii remote--only more accurate and far easier to use.

    Extreme Peer-to-Peer
    ====================
    In 1543, Nicolas Copernicus forever changed the way we view the cosmos. He put the Sun at the center of things--not the Earth. Today, at the famed Palo Alto Research Center, Van Jacobson hopes to lead a similar revolution, one that forever changes the way we view PC networking. He aims to put the data at the center of things--not the server.

    With a project called Content-Centric Networking, or CCN, Jacobson and his team of PARC networking gurus are turning this model on its head. They're building a networking system that revolves around the data itself, a system in which a router can actually identify that Bode Miller video and act accordingly. Under the CCN model, you don't tell the network that you're interested in connecting to a server. You tell it that you want a particular piece of data. You broadcast a request to all the machines on the network, and if one of them has what you're looking for, it responds.

    The Man-Made Brain
    ==================
    It could be the most ambitious computer science project of all time. At IBM's Almaden Research Center, just south of South Francisco, Dharmendra Modha and his team are chasing the holy grail of artificial intelligence. They aren't looking for ways of mimicking the human brain, they're looking to build one--neuron by neuron, synapse by synapse.

    "We're trying to take the entire range of qualitative neuroscientific data and integrate it into a single unified computing platform," says Modha. "The idea is to re-create the 'wetware' brain using hardware and software."

    Their first goal is to build a "massively parallel cortical simulator" that re-creates the brain of a mouse, an organ 3,500 times less complex than a human brain (if you count each individual neuron and synapse). But even this is an undertaking of epic proportions. A mouse brain houses over 16 million neurons, with more than 128 billion synapses running between them. Even a partial simulation stretches the boundaries of modern hardware. No, we don't mean desktop hardware. We're talkin' supercomputers.

    So far, the team has been able to fashion a kind of digital mouse brain that needs about 6 seconds to simulate 1 second of real thinking time.
  • Mid-air mouse... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rilister (316428) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:36AM (#19686953)
    ... I can debunk this one for you right away.

    Take your mouse. Hold it the air for five minutes. For extra effect, wave it about. Now imagine doing this eight hours a day. And being accurate.

    Tired arm much? Using a 2D mouse is about accuracy and long-term usage. OK, the mouse isn't perfect, but hanging it in space significantly deteriorates both these properties.

    The Wii controller is a whole different ball of wax - it's for using for a couple of hours at most, and you don't try clicking on unfolding menus with it.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Also, hasn't this existed for years now?
    • Re:Mid-air mouse... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Soulshift (1044432) on Friday June 29 2007, @05:18AM (#19687103)

      Do you even know how the Soap pointing device works? Hint: you don't wave it around in mid air. It's essentially the guts of an optical mouse put into a smooth, clear container and stuck into a sock. The optical sensor tracks the grain of the enclosing sock, and you manipulate it by squeezing the sock gently, causing the "mouse" inside to rotate - much as if you were squeezing a bar of soap (hence the name)

      Unlike a lot of stuff coming out of Microsoft, I regard this little invention to be actually rather creative and worthwhile. If anything, it will definitely be a boon to people who need to use a pointing device during presentations (much better than the trackball solution we have today)

      • by jollyreaper (513215) on Friday June 29 2007, @07:27AM (#19687599)

        Do you even know how the Soap pointing device works? Hint: you don't wave it around in mid air. It's essentially the guts of an optical mouse put into a smooth, clear container and stuck into a sock. The optical sensor tracks the grain of the enclosing sock, and you manipulate it by squeezing the sock gently, causing the "mouse" inside to rotate - much as if you were squeezing a bar of soap (hence the name)
        So, once you're done -er, "rotating your 'mouse,'" do you wash the sock out or just throw it in the dirty pile?
      • I went to the soap homepage (http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/projects/soap/ind e x.html) and watched the demo. DOA. The gyrations that guys hand has to make to control the mouse, and the speed of the cursor (I know, you can set that, but there's a limit to maintain precision) makes the propsect of using something like that for an extended period of time seem like a CIA torture technique. I use a "regular" optical moust with a wrist pad that has a wrist rest. It requires very little effort, and I can both zip
          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            Actually, precision is one of the things I would be concerned about. Think about it - with a desk-bound mouse you can make relatively precise movements in two axes, as the third is constrained and the surface provides support for the device. With a hand held object, you must support it with the same fingers used to manipulate the device. Very few people have perfectly steady hands, which means decreasing the sensitivity to avoid shake - further aggravating the speed issue. Second, most of my mouse operatio
      • OK, I'm willing to assume, for the sake of argument, that the mid-air mouse is better than the mouse I'm using now. Even so, will this really re-invent computing in any significant way? Does it really belong in the same category as quantum computing or a data-centric network? I don't think so. A better mouse is nice, but it doesn't precipitate any kind of paradigm shift that I can see. If I'm wrong about this, feel free to explain.

        True speech input with language understanding might bring about a majo

    • Re:Mid-air mouse... (Score:5, Informative)

      by mlush (620447) on Friday June 29 2007, @05:30AM (#19687143)
      You dont even need to do the experement, there is a name for it since the 1980s From the Jargon files gorilla arm: n. The side-effect that destroyed touch-screens as a mainstream input technology despite a promising start in the early 1980s. It seems the designers of all those spiffy touch-menu systems failed to notice that humans aren't designed to hold their arms in front of their faces making small motions. After more than a very few selections, the arm begins to feel sore, cramped, and oversized -- the operator looks like a gorilla while using the touch screen and feels like one afterwards. This is now considered a classic cautionary tale to human-factors designers; "Remember the gorilla arm!" is shorthand for "How is this going to fly in real use?".
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        While I find your post informative (up until now I had never heard of "gorilla arm"), I suggest reading this other informative sibling post.

        Mid-air mouse is somewhat of a misnomer...you don't have to hold it in mid air. In fact, it does not require arm motion of any sort.

        http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=243159&cid= 19687103 [slashdot.org]

        Also, I think touch screens kind of suck because you're finger is blocking the view of your hand. >.<
    • by WalterGR (106787) on Friday June 29 2007, @05:38AM (#19687165) Homepage

      Take your mouse. Hold it the air for five minutes. For extra effect, wave it about. Now imagine doing this eight hours a day.

      Reminds me of this hilarious comic [ok-cancel.com] from OK/Cancel.

      (Two guys exit a showing of the movie Minority Report.)

      Guy: Mate, that film was brilliant! I reckon that interface'll be the interface of the future!

      (Fast forward to 2099...)

      Job interviewer, speaking to interviewee: I'm sorry ma'am. Your cognitive scores are incredible but you simply don't have the upper body strength to do this 8 hours a day.

      If you're into usability and design, OK/Cancel is a great web comic to check out.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Or you could remount a standard trackball mouse into a pistol grip: thumb moves the ball, and you have four buttons on the grip. You can rest your hand however you want, and you've got plenty of accuracy.

      I've seen mouses like that. And I've heard good things about trackballs for gaming, though that was compared to joysticks, so I'm not sure how they stack up against regular mouses.
  • by Snad (719864) <mspace@NOSPAm.bigfoot.com> on Friday June 29 2007, @04:39AM (#19686961)

    FTFA :

    A gaming PC with dueling graphics cards can line up 12 projectors in as little as 5 minutes

    What if I don't want my graphics cards fighting it out to see who survives? Will it take only 2 minutes if they join forces instead of trying to kill each other?

  • by pzs (857406) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:41AM (#19686975)

    Most of these ideas look more like cool gadgets or specific applications to me.

    Computing is everywhere now. I think a "re-invention" of it should probably be something that applies to the huge numbers of people who use computing as part of their everyday lives.

    I was much more interested in these [bbc.co.uk] comments, which involve trying to fundamentally change the way in which we use our technology.

    Peter

  • by supersnail (106701) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:43AM (#19686981)
    I cant help being reminded of those wonderful 1950s popular mechanics articles which predicted we would all be flying home in our flying cars to watch our 3D Tv while eating a robot cooked meal.

    The present is never the future you thought it would be.

    Everybody predicted talking computers able to predict the future, but nobody predicted YouTube or predictive texting.
  • by Opportunist (166417) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:44AM (#19686987)
    That's what it comes down to. We already have computers that calculate faster than anything we combined have. They just cost more than we combined have, too. These ideas all sound nice and pretty, but generally what it comes down to is cost. 12k for a home entertainment? Who can afford that? Who'd WANT to afford that? Especially with probably no movies to see on it in the forseeable future, since studios won't allow ... I digress.

    Any prediction past 5 years in the future of IT is a pipe dream. Accept that. Think back, say, 10 years. You know, when the Internet was the next hot thing and broadband was the dream. When we sucked our data through 56k modems. When the first FTP servers sharing music appeared. When Napster came to fame. What was the prediction? That Napster is so hot it smokes and that it will soar. That on the internet we'll all make a ton of money with ads on our pages. That in 10 years (i.e. today) the corner store is gone and we'll do all our business on the net. We'll all be having fiber to our homes and watch our movies online, hell, all our data will be online, since loading it from the HD is just as fast as accessing it on the 'net.

    Well, some of it came, but compared to the explosions predicted it was at best a greasefire. Yes, you can shop on the net, and Amazon surely dealt a serious blow to book stores, but otherwise, the economy didn't suddenly go full force online. Music sharing is a topic for lawyers rather than technicians, and Napster kinda-sorta folded (yeah, it still exists, somewhere, somehow, but nobody cares anymore). Fiber is a dream for most people, and while the net speed went up, it's a far cry from what was predicted. Services that store data online are currently starting to get started, but they're far from being a HD replacement, at best, they're offsite backups (and even as such they suck, due to space limitations).

    Technical issues actually went to the background, replaced by legal problems and privacy concerns. Nobody predicted that, IIRC.

    So doing a prediction up to 2020 is kinda pipe dreaming. You have no idea what obstacles will come in our way, you can't even imagine what kind of problem we will have to deal in 2015 already. For all I know, it could happen that Google gets bought out by some megalomanic and insanely rich guy who then starts to milk it for private data. Can it happen? For sure. Will it happen? Who knows.

    All I know is that predicting the IT future is a business best left to fortune tellers. At least they don't have to fear for their credibility when their predictions are so way off that it's not even funny anymore.
    • Most of the middle-class in any western country *can* affort to spend $12K for any damn thing they please. If it's worth it is another matter entirely. For 99% of the population that's gonna be a no.

      Tech tends to fall like a lead-stone in price over time though, can you remember when a simple DVD-player was $3000 ? It's not that many years ago. You know, one of those sucky ones with no network, no divX, no mp3, no jpg, no video-cd compatibility and 10-second lag for layer-changing....

      We used to have a $3000 0.8Mpix digital camera at work. Concluding that digital cameras will never appeal to the mass-market based on that would've been the wrong conclusion though....

  • by ceeam (39911) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:55AM (#19687021)
    ... for retarded definition of "computing".
  • by tgv (254536) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:55AM (#19687023) Journal
    I guess by "man-made" they mean artificial and that it will REVOLUTIONIZE(tm) computing since these artificial brains are going to be built in to every PC. Where did I hear that before? I think at the time they grossly overstated the capacity of computers such as the original IBM PC. So perhaps Moore's law applies to hardware, it surely doesn't apply to exaggeration.

    Anyway, who needs an electronic brain? Now I can at least yell "idiot" to MS Word when it joins sections or splits pages without it getting offended. Can you imagine Clippy looking angry and saying in this cute cartoon like blob "Now I'm not going to erase your document, you asked for it".
  • by DrXym (126579) on Friday June 29 2007, @04:58AM (#19687031)
    Gyroscopic mice have been around for years (pioneering the same tech you now see in the Wii remote and PS3 SIXAXIS). You really wouldn't want to use one unless you're doing a presentation or similar since you'll just hurt your hand and wrist waving the thing around in mid-air.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      You don't wave the MS mouse. It does not have motion sensors in it, instead it is more like a tracker ball without a base.
  • multicast? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2007, @05:16AM (#19687095)
    The "router-based peer-to-peer system" isn't all that revolutionary: the load-spreading system they describe is similar in many ways to a system of caching web proxies (good) mixed with Steam (evil). The article also describes a content-centric model of accessing data as opposed to a server-centric model, and that's kind of cool, but I don't have a whole lot of faith in that sort of thing right now.

    What I THOUGHT they were talking about when I read "router-based peer-to-peer system" was ISPs and backbone services finally implementing multicast. Give any p2p software author a network where multicast actually works and you'll definitely see a revolution.
  • Mid air mouse. (Score:5, Informative)

    by DavidpFitz (136265) on Friday June 29 2007, @05:20AM (#19687109) Homepage Journal
    FTA...

    Soap goes one step further: It works in midair. With this new-age pointing device, now under development at Microsoft Research, you can navigate your PC using nothing but a bare hand. You can lose the end table and the lap desk. You can even lose the couch and the bed, driving your machine while walking across the room. It's a bit like the Wii remote--only more accurate and far easier to use.

    Quick... someone send a memo to Microsoft to let them know someone did this years ago. Nip over to your local computer shop and pick up a Gyration Ultra GT [extremetech.com]. Only problem is that your arms feel knackered after about 5 minutes of use. Pointless.

    D.
  • by ardor (673957) on Friday June 29 2007, @05:20AM (#19687113)
    Most of these ideas are just gimmicks. One HUGE milestone only gets a footnote: non-volatile RAM.

    Look at today's PC. Where is the bottleneck in 95% of all cases? The hard drive.

    So, what could be the next killer feature? Non-volatile RAM (PRAM, FRAM, MRAM..). The immediate advantage is speed of course. But there is something much bigger.

    Most of the time, loading a file is no longer necessary! Much of the boot time of today's OSes comes from loading stuff into RAM. This can be omitted with P/F/MRAM, reducing booting to device initialization. Also, suspend-to-disk comes for free.

    Every single OS is based on the fact that there is a slow, but persistent memory (hard drive) and a fast, volatile one (RAM). They'd need a complete overhaul to fully exploit the new paradigm. Hell, almost all programs too. "Loading file to memory" is not necessary anymore, because the file already IS in memory! Thus, some sort of direct access is needed (unless the file is fragmented).
    • by Tx (96709) on Friday June 29 2007, @06:31AM (#19687327) Journal
      Every single OS is based on the fact that there is a slow, but persistent memory (hard drive) and a fast, volatile one (RAM). They'd need a complete overhaul to fully exploit the new paradigm.

      Not true. Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 and earlier were designed to be used with battery-backed DRAM as the primary/sole mass storage, probably true for lots of other embedded systems too. WM2003 therefore wouldn't need any changes at all to take advantage of these technologies, and it probably would take much to transfer any relevant features to desktop windows either.
  • Stupid article (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pubjames (468013) on Friday June 29 2007, @05:24AM (#19687123)
    Sorry, but the article is just dumb.

    How can you put quantum and organic computing on the same list as a hack to join up a bunch of projectors to make a larger screen and a fricking "beanbag" mouse that you wave about?

  • IMAX at home? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Aladrin (926209) on Friday June 29 2007, @06:33AM (#19687345)
    Wait, has anyone ever TRIED the whole 'theatre at home' thing? Even if you could sacrifice your entire living room to set up the gigantic screen, and arrange the seats to advantage, you -still- don't get the same experience as the theatre. The screen there is taller than your house and the volume and bass on the speakers would have the neighbors calling the cops.

    I've only got a 37" TV and I decided not to replace it with a 50" Plasma because I just didn't have room for a bigger one. There's no way I could possibly put an IMAX-class screen in my house, even if it only meant keeping 1 wall clear to project on.

    People go to the theatre for the experience and to get out of the house, and you just can't do that at home.
    • plus at the theater you get the benefit of screaming kids, someone talking on their cell phone, overpriced concessions and your shoes sticking to the floor!
  • by NeverVotedBush (1041088) on Friday June 29 2007, @06:58AM (#19687469)
    This concept was published in Make in one of their first year issues. It might have been the same guy and Microsoft just bought it out -- but it sure looks to be in the public domain. Here is a link to the Make article: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/07/soap_ mouse.html [makezine.com]

    There is also a video on YouTube (search for soap mouse" on how to make and use one. It's basically just a mouse in a sock.

    And PC Magazine... what can I say? I haven't been there in a while and was amazed at all the crap on their web pages. One little block of text and the rest of the page is nothing but ad links. Very sad.
  • by niceone (992278) * on Friday June 29 2007, @07:04AM (#19687503) Journal
    12 off-the-shelf projectors, for when one projector isn't noisy enough for you.
      • by jibjibjib (889679) on Friday June 29 2007, @06:21AM (#19687293) Journal
        RTFA. The article clearly describes the differences between the new technologies and the old ones they're based on, and it gives examples of real-world research that is actually making progress towards the two technologies that you have said might never happen. You obviously haven't read the article at all, and are just making assumptions based on the short list in the summary.
      • I didn't immediately know what you meant. Now I see you're referring to the 'a=209783' part. I just spent 2 mins trying to make a link without this but gave up ... and now I see CowboyNeal has edited the summary to use this same link.
    • by WED Fan (911325) <akahige&trashmail,net> on Friday June 29 2007, @09:13AM (#19688551) Homepage Journal

      The article is clear and utter BS. Poopoo de Toro.

      This is akin to "Flying Cars Will Reinvent the Commute", "Water as Fuel Will End the Energy Crisis", "Slapping Wheels on Your Grandmother's Butt Will Make Her a Wagon".

      • IMAX on a home computer - Excuse the F&ck out of me, but most homes don't have HDTV or even digital. Then, most don't have the space for a screen larger than 50". IMAX from your home computer isn't really revolutionizing the computer, it's revolutionizing (maybe) home entertainment. MISCATEGORIZED FLYING CAR!!!
      • Air mouse - What? What? What!!?!! Has this jerk-off seen the Wii? Great for gaming, but try this exercise, pick up your mouse, wave it in the air as if you were mousing on your screen. Now, imagine doing that all day at work. STOP!!! Did I say put the mouse down, keep it up. I'll let you know when you can put the mouse down. BOOT CAMP PT TORTURE EXERCISE!!!
      • Quantum Computers - Yeah maybe, but how about size and form factor improvements while maintaining useability. STAR TREK TELEPORTER!!!
      • Extreme Peer to Peer - What?!? Take one of the most overused ideas, slap some lipstick on that pig, and say it will revolutionize computing? PIG IN A DRESS!!!
      • The Man-Made Brain - People are having enough difficulties with their nature-made brand, just what I want, Intel making me a brain. I guess if floating point math is no longer important to me, I might care. FLYING F*CKING CAR!!!
        • by Torvaun (1040898) on Friday June 29 2007, @11:47AM (#19690509)
          On /., about 90% of the population already has wide experience with rubbing and squeezing a pair of soft squishy balls while using a computer. Don't even get me started on joysticks.