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Malware Hijacks Windows Update
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CmdrTaco
on Wed May 16, 2007 09:39 AM
from the you-trust-me-right-right-right dept.
from the you-trust-me-right-right-right dept.
clickclickdrone writes "The BBC are reporting a new piece of malware is in the wild that can hijack Windows Update's functionality and bypass firewalls allowing it to install malicious code on users PCs. The new code was discovered by Frank Boldewin in an email. The attack utilizes the BITS system."
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Maybe we should call it... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:but does it support Vista? (Score:5, Funny)
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Typical Microsoft response (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Typical Microsoft response (Score:5, Informative)
However, given the time I spend helping my less technical friends clean up their PCs you do definitely have a point!
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Re:Typical Microsoft response (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Typical Microsoft response (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Typical Microsoft response (Score:5, Insightful)
huh? I mean seriously, huh? What century are you in?
Windows 2000 and later you can make USB sticks read-only for non-admin users through group policy. System file changes do require the user to intervene, even if the user isn't aware system file changes are logged and have been logged since Windows 2000 "self-healing" became prevalent. With XP SP2 things became more obvious and with Vista things are blatantly obvious when there is a system change as the Allow Cancel dialog pops up.
Seriously, why make a point about the operating system being designed improperly if you're going to support it with completely false evidence. You could at least use real evidence like memory management and service dependency problems in the Windows world. It would be real, it is a poorly designed system but despite that they make it work for the vast majority of users out there.
Linux systems are just as susceptible to trojans of this sort. When the user opens something from an untrusted source and blindly clicks like would be required in Vista then almost anything is possible. There are ways to mitigate the risks on both sides but typical setups will still be quite susceptible.
I'm curious what you think Administrator can't do on a Windows system as well, perhaps you mean they don't make potentially dangerous features readily accessible? Perhaps you mean the protected-mode nature of the kernel preventing flashing of internal firmware which also isn't problem? Add in Powershell and I'm thoroughly confused as to what you think administrative users can't do.
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There is no way to program around users that blindly say yes to every prompt. There is however a way to create users who blindly say yes to every prompt, and that is throwing a million prompts at them every time they want to update their video card driver.
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When will Microsoft patch these vulnerabilities?!
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Re:Typical Microsoft response (Score:5, Insightful)
Not that it would matter- I always choose "Custom Install" anyway because otherwise I'll end up with Windows Genuine Advantage which I think fits the definition of a Trojan.
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Well, Microsoft's response makes a lot of sense. You could trick a user into running sudo trojan.sh on Ubuntu too. After that the user is screwed anyway, as trojan.sh could contain anything, including something that edits /etc/apt/sources.list to the attacker's repo's.
What do you want MS to do to stop this from being possible? If the user runs a random executable as root/a
Your machine has just been updated (Score:5, Funny)
please restart your machine to become a zombie
Re:Your machine has just been updated (Score:4, Funny)
Accept or Deny?
This will never get old...
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Not one the the better MS Patents... (Score:4, Funny)
Correct link (Score:5, Informative)
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The weird Christian page; unless you happen to be running Linux x64.
Makes perfect sense (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Makes perfect sense (Score:5, Informative)
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Security quiz linked from TFA (Score:5, Funny)
A: Guerilla activism by open source software advocates in which they uninstall Windows on a PC and replace it with Linux
Windows is safe! (Score:5, Funny)
I have my own awesome blog whose url I certainly don't need to post here since I expect you all to know it already.
I just talked with my friends at Microsoft and they told me that
"Windows is safe!"
and it seems ridiculous to care about such small issues when 9/11 was only 6 years ago. You people should really step aside and look at the things from another perspective.
Maybe from above like the Lord does.
I rather go to church and pray to the Lord for less terrorists than being part in this smear campain against the blessed world leader of IT.
Bill and Melinda think of the children. Do YOU?
Re: Windows is safe! (Score:2)
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A little overstated (Score:4, Informative)
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Speak for yourself. I have Zonealarm block every IE connection unless I specifically allow it... no way will I trust that piece of crap to go talking to random web sites without permission.
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WGA (Score:3, Funny)
Manual updates at risk? (Score:2)
If I only ever do manual updates on windows, by manually surfing to windowsupdate.com, am I at risk for this? It's not actually necessary to run BITS in order to keep a Windows system up to date.
Also, it's not clear from TFA whether this can be stopped by privilege separation -- if I'm sur
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If I only ever do manual updates on windows, by manually surfing to windowsupdate.com, am I at risk for this? It's not actually necessary to run BITS in order to keep a Windows system up to date.
Manual downloads from Windows update use BITs. Check %SYSTEMROOT%\WindowsUpdate.log while doing an update if your curious.
Also, it's not clear from TFA whether this can be stopped by privilege separation -- if I'm surfing as a low-priority user and hit this malware, can it still make BITS do the more-malware download?
BITs runs as a service under the system account. It can do whatever it wants. However it needs to be woken up to do it, as it's default service state is set as 'Manual'.
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click here (Score:4, Funny)
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I clicked on the link and it redirected me to http://127.0.0.1/apache2-default/ [127.0.0.1] and the page confirms that it works!
Let me be the first to say... (Score:5, Funny)
Me, I'm relaxed and enjoying a soda.
Overblown (Score:5, Informative)
Can you safely disable BITS? (Score:4, Interesting)
However, I've never found anything more specific -- does anyone know the consequences of disabling BITS?
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http://www.firewallleaktester.com/news.htm#57 [firewallleaktester.com]
Nice work! A program to infect an already ... (Score:3, Funny)
and yet... (Score:2)
Eh. What can ya do.
Re:and yet... (Score:5, Insightful)
How is this Microsoft's fault? It's a trojan. The system has already been compromised. Hey, if I can get you to run my shell script as root, then I can add my own sources to your sources.list and use apt to install my rootkit! Debian must be insecure!!@#!#!#!
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Oh, wait, that's bollocks. And so is your argument.
Microsoft's Makes a Buck, However (Score:5, Funny)
Your Trojan, named 1337-5ki11z, violates 387 Microsoft patents, included patent 666-1345-876-666 ("screwing the user over"). We do not wish to actually pursue legal action, but would rather license our Windows Update APIs to you for the paltry sum of 100.00 (per infection).
Thank You
Kindly,
The MS Legal Eagles
Story is innacurate (Score:5, Insightful)
Windows update makes use of the BITS service. Malware can make use of the BITS service. Its not logical to then say that Malware is exploiting Windows update. Any more than an attack that utilised Java would be exploiting Azureus (A java application).
The reason malware utilising BITS is a problem is because with any application-level firewall, permission for BITS to access the net is already granted and so unlike a regular trojan, the firewall won't spit a potentially suspicious permission request up when it tries to download more malware from the 'net. This same exploit is true of the JVM too.
A solution to the problem might be to instance such services. But by doing that it sort of renders them not services anymore.
So eh, mark my stats +1 pedantry, but to perpetuate this as a Windows Update exploit isn't accurate.
I've always been curious... (Score:3, Interesting)
Completely misleading (Score:5, Informative)
BITS stands for "Background Intelligent Transfer Service" and is simply a way to download files using idle bandwith. It's fully documented in MSDN, see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa362708. aspx [microsoft.com], and among many things it's used by some browser downloading plugins (similar to DownloadThemAll) that enhance downloading of large files. It's not just used by Windows Update.
Do we need additional articles to state that a malicious program on a compromised machine could use FTP to download additional files? Or HTTP? Or BitTorrent? Or roll their own protocol?
Based on the article, it sounds like the only concern is that because BITS is a service (daemon in the Unix world), it means that firewalls or malware detection tools that attempt to block outgoing requests (which most don't; they block listening ports) may not currently detect this because it's not the malicious .EXE itself that's opening a port; it calls into BITS, which opens the port. However, the app still has to use a public API to instantiate the BITS object, so there's no reason such a program couldn't hook that as well.
Unfortunately the article summary (and headline of the BBC article!) completely misrepresents the issue and blows it way out of proportion. They are not Hijacking Windows Update. They're using a generic well-documented downloading service that also happens to be used by Windows Update simply because it enables WU to download updates without gobbling up all your bandwidth.
More Symantec Baloney (Score:3)
I wrote a proof of concept application that bypassed all of the major outgoing software firewalls (BlackIce, Zonealarm, McAfee, Symantec) by utilizing the COM interfaces for Internet Explorer and funneling all my requests through it. This is almost impossible to detect. Even better, I wrote this app in freakin' VB!
The real problem is that local outgoing software firewalls simply don't work in an environment where all the users are admin. Once the machine is compromised, it's compromised. No number of software defenses are going to help. This includes, by the way, Symantec's expensive and incredibly crappy products. These products are there to make users feel secure, not actually make them secure.
Remember WordMasters from grade school? You know, the analogy test they used to give every once in a while. Here is an analogy for you:
Symantec is to computer security as the Bush Administration is to homeland security.
They do their best to scare the crap out of people in an attempt to get them to buy their software... or vote for their party. Don't trust either of them and you'll be better off.
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Yes, you can. (Score:3, Insightful)
No, I don't agree.
No matter what, buggy drivers, compromised machine, spilled coffee, you can always count on your trustworthy old friend, mister Blue-Screen©® !