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Electronic Paper Plant to be Built in Germany

Posted by samzenpus on Thu Jan 04, 2007 01:17 AM
from the my-aibo-ate-my-homework dept.
Aqua_boy17 writes "BBC News is reporting today that Cambridge based firm PlasticLogic is set to build the world's first manufacturing facility dedicated to producing plastic circuits. In particular the company is focused on developing flexible plastic circuits that cost much less than silicon and would soon enable electronic paper devices that could be used to store large amounts of text and other data. The company has secured $100 million in venture capital and is set to build its first facility in Dresden, Germany. Construction of the facility should be completed by 2008 according to the article. Industry experts expect market demand for this technology to approach $30 billion by the year 2015."
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  • what's a picture worth now? I can't keep track...
  • Have technologists made that wonderful electronic paper where you can store your entire porn collection on one sheet?
    • I already store my entire porn collection on one sheet. Well, 1/2 actually.
        • Methinks one of us just had a 'whoosh!' moment and I don't think it was me.
          • I got the joke and while it was funny and clever I was just saying IMO it would be boring to never look at porn and only ever see your partner naked. My gf actually tells me to get porn which I think is cool and we don't watch it all the time but it is fun every once in a while.

            No whoosh moment here.
    • by MillionthMonkey (240664) on Thursday January 04 2007, @02:27AM (#17455330)
      Have technologists made that wonderful electronic paper where you can store your entire porn collection on one sheet?
      I can store 6 billion bits of information in a single piece of tissue paper.

      Although I never read the information in that format since I can rely on copies that are kept elsewhere.
        • The human genome contains 3 billion base pairs which (as it's base 4) comes to about 4*(3*10^9)=12billion bits

          A base 4 digit contains two bits of information, not four. 00, 01, 10, 11.

          and there are roughly 280 million tadpoles in each puddle of love so actually your total data output is about 3,360,000,000,000,000,000 bits

          That's wrong too. You can't just multiply by the count; each one contains a unique set of 3 billion bits which is always a different subset of the same 6 billion bits, chopped up into cont
    • I hope they laminated it.
  • by ravee (201020) on Thursday January 04 2007, @02:09AM (#17455274) Homepage Journal
    Recently, I was viewing a TV program reviewing a number of cell phones (which are the current craze in India). And their findings was in terms of cost effectiveness and design, the Motorola MotoFone F3 was their choice. This cellphone is sold for just around $25. And how did they cut the cost so much ?

    Enter their unique display which uses Electronic paper which is developed by the US based E-Link. This cell phone doesn't need power to constantly display an image on the screen. It only needs a little charge when the text (or whatever) needs to be changed. The display stays on even when the battery is pulled out! And more over it is a beautiful phone sleek and thin.

    I believe more and more gadgets are going to be manufactured using this new technology. Sony has already released its e-book reader which has the same effects of reading a real book. So PlasticLogic the company is on to a good thing.
  • An electronic paper Airplane!
  • Do you have any idea how many millions of electronic trees are going to die to feed this plant???!
  • by Mogster (459037) on Thursday January 04 2007, @02:34AM (#17455350)
    I know a few people, myself included who dislike reading e-books due to the nature of the screen. Also it's not easy to curl up with a good e-book on a computer (laptops are too bulky and pocket pc screens are too small)

    If this works and can link with eInk screens to create an easily held, clearly visible book format then I'd be happy to switch away from the dead-tree format.

    And we'd save a few trees along the way
    • "I know a few people, myself included who dislike reading e-books due to the nature of the screen"

      The problem is not with the screen, it's with the interface. A book on a computer should be 3D and handle just like a book in the real world. Except you dont have to apply force to keep the book open or the pages from flopping over.
    • i read books off my pda all the time. a 4" vga screen is very good for reading, a 3.5" qvga screen isn't that good but it suffices.
      • Re:Sony eReader (Score:5, Informative)

        by antifoidulus (807088) on Thursday January 04 2007, @02:53AM (#17455406) Homepage Journal
        As the owner of one I really couldn't be happier with the device itself(the software that came with it is another story). I recently did a trans-atlantic flight and the device was a hell of a lot easier to take with me than even one book, let alone 2 or 3. Sharp display, and very readable text.

        Sony's software sucks, but there are plenty of ways to get around having to use it, and they REALLY need more books in their bookstore. BTW, it costs $350USD.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          I, too, have one of the new Sony e-book readers (QReader) and I can say the screen is simply outstanding for book reading. The screen is as easy on the eyes as reading on regular paper. It is a vast improvement over the PDAs I've used in the past for e-book reading.

          Due to the backlight, I've found that using a PDA for e-book reading becomes hard on the eyes after several minutes, plus the size of the screen is a disadvantage when reading e-books. Besides the screen quality of the QReader, another advantag

        • by dpbsmith (263124) on Thursday January 04 2007, @09:05AM (#17457342) Homepage
          The state of eBooks has been the same since the year 2000. It's never been a technology issue. I'm glad your new Sony is nice, and I'm sure it's a significant improvement over the Rocket eBook, but the Rocket eBook is more than good enough.

          The problem is, was, and for the foreseeable future will be, as you say, "they REALLY need more books in their bookstore." (By the way, how are those books priced? There is also a problem with overpricing and greed. Circa 2000-2001 I had numerous conversations with interested onlookers about my Rocket eBook and there was always mounting interest until they said "What do the books cost?" I'd answer "Same as hardbounds for books that aren't in paper, otherwise same as a paperback." Their jaw would drop in disbelief and that would be the end of the conversation).

          But it wasn't the price. It was lack of titles. An electronic bookstore with a thousand titles may give the impression of plentitude, but it's less than a good airport bookstore and it doesn't even compare to a plain old brick-and-mortar mall bookstore.

          At one time, I went over the list of books chosen for Oprah's book club. At the time there were about forty titles. Something like thirty of them were available as audiobooks, yet only about six were available as eBooks in any format whatsoever. For no eBook format were more than three or four of them available.

          There are numerous ways of reading eBooks that are good enough to provide a comfortable, enjoyable, "ludic" reading experience, but until you can buy the books you want at a reasonable price, it ain't gonna happen.

          I own approximately $300 worth of content I purchased for my Rocket eBook which is locked down to the particular serial number of my physical device. Nuvomedia and Gemstar are long gone, the servers are shut down, there's no customer service available, the battery life on my device is now down to a couple of hours... and when the device fails I'll be the proud possessor of expensive content which is completely inaccessible to me.

          I hope you have better luck with your Sony.

          • I own approximately $300 worth of content I purchased for my Rocket eBook which is locked down to the particular serial number of my physical device. Nuvomedia and Gemstar are long gone, the servers are shut down, there's no customer service available, the battery life on my device is now down to a couple of hours... and when the device fails I'll be the proud possessor of expensive content which is completely inaccessible to me.

            The battery is easily fixed. Buy a new REB from eBookwise to scavenge the batte

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        Yeah the cost is what puts me off eReader (although I'm not sure if they're even available in my neck of the woods yet).

        If the reader could be made available relatively cheaply say $100USD (around $130 NZD atm) then titles could be sold at current market rates - eventually as the technology becomes more widespread then even title prices would drop
  • by Knutsi (959723) on Thursday January 04 2007, @02:39AM (#17455364)
    This may be a tad off topic, but I still think it's interesting to imagine the effect on style and design ultra-cheap electronic paper could have. Remember the breakfast Tom Cruise had in Minority Report, where a cartoon played on his box of cereals?

    If price drops enough, this may lead to inventions such as memory-cards with previews of the content showing right on the card, elecronic labels right in store shelves, changing walls in buildings, floors with directional arrows flying around, guiding you in unfamiliar places, electronic wallpaper for your appartment... add a few giftet artists to all this potential, and I'm sure the world would never look the same again (:

    More and more, I think Clarke's third law holds true: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws [wikipedia.org]
    • add a few giftet artists to all this potential, and I'm sure the world would never look the same again (:
      Yes, I can imagine how it's going to be: World's Worst Website [angelfire.com]. Walk trough Walmart low price products will be a unforgettable experience.
    • Electronic labels do exist already; overhere there's a store which only has these electronic labels which get updated wirelessly and instantly.

      First company making these I found online; Electronic Shelf Labels [elabelsys.com]
    • It does get one's imagination going if you think about the different potential applications. Remember the scene in (I think?) Total Recall where the girl sitting at the desk is changing her nail color with a touch of a stylus? This type of technology could well enable stuff like that. And I love the idea of having wallpaper that I could change at my whim.

      OTOH, I'd hate to see this become yet another outlet for annoying adverts that could be seen everywhere you go. It already drives me completely nuts w

  •   I thought the world wanted to become less dependent on oil and not more dependent?
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I assume you mean the plastic used to build e-readers.

      But imagine if e-readers take over. Less newspapers and books. Less logging and distribution of paper products - daily newspapers and magazines. Shipments from Amazon.com. Less factories set to refine paper and recycle it (our biggest export to China is used paper so they can print their newspapers). Less printers to print crap. Less storage cabinets to store paperwork. Less oil and other materials used all around.

      I also imagine companies like Ama
    • I think it depends on what oil. It would be good to reduce our dependency on fossil oil. However, I see nothing wrong with using vegetable oil, which we can produce ourselves. I think a lot of useful things can be done with it.
  • by Flying pig (925874) on Thursday January 04 2007, @03:35AM (#17455574)
    AMD, that's who. Apart from the obvious concentration of necessary skills in the area, what a good idea to start up right next to a large semi company that is expanding its product spectrum.

    Cambridge, Mass. and Cambridge, East Anglia. There must be something about those freezing cold winters that encourages people to stay indoors and invent things.

    • Cambridge, East Anglia normally doesn't have cold winters. There is something called "Gulfstream" (while Cambridge, Mass. get's cold winters due to water down from Labrador...).
      • "Gulfstream" is an executive jet. The "Gulf stream" runs down the West side of the country (the side I now very sensibly live on...) Cambridge is on the East side (the side I grew up on.) I can assure you from in-depth personal experience over a number of years that Cambridge, East Anglia has cold winters.
        • For someone living in Tyrolia (Austria), winters in Cambridge, East Anglia are rather warm and slightly rainy instead of cold :)
    • The real reason most programmers look down on COBOL is because it was designed by a woman.


      Cobol wasn't designed by a woman. It was designed by a committee. Of men.

      M.

  • ObGodwin (Score:2, Interesting)

    But will this new electronic paper combust at 451F like the old stuff [wikipedia.org]? Or will the thought police simply be able to turn off electronic paper which displays ideas they don't like [com.com]? ;-)
  • Well that's going to make the whole "Ihre Papiere, bitte!" question a bit difficult to answer, no?
  • by sootman (158191) on Thursday January 04 2007, @10:01AM (#17458000) Journal
    "Electronic Paper Plant to be Built in Germany"

    So, is this an electronic plant that makes paper, or a plant that makes electric paper?

    Q: How many Lojbanists [wikipedia.org] does it take to change a broken light bulb?
    A: Two: one to decide what to change it into, and one to figure out what kind of bulb emits broken light.
    • *sigh* Ya know, I knew no matter how carefully I worded and proofread this some grammar nazi would get me for something. So as a public service to Slashdot readers around the world I'm fixing the title:

      "Electronic Paper Plant to be Grown in Germany"

      There, happy now? :p
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      The company has secured $100 million in venture capital and is set to build its first facility in Dresden, Germany

      Yep, looks like a contradiction to me. You're 100% wrong :-)
        • Read it any way you want, they don't make electronic paper, they make plastic circuits that could be useful in conjunction WITH electronic paper.
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            Electronic paper is not made of paper. It's a marketing term for flexible displays made from charged two-colour particles that can be realigned. Electronic paper is infact (confusingly for you) made from plastic. So there is no contridiction in the title, it is an electronic plastic plant that will be used to make "electronic paper".
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      The summary contradicts the headline :-S


      What the summary is missing is that the polymer electronics built in this factory will be laminated to electrophoretic imaging materials made by E Ink Corporation to form flexible electronic paper displays. Thus, the final output of the factory will indeed be electronic paper.

    • Re:Kinda dumb (Score:4, Informative)

      by KDR_11k (778916) on Thursday January 04 2007, @03:34AM (#17455564)
      Electronic paper is a display device, not storage.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      There's this thing that's still popular... NEWS PAPER. Yea, imagine just downloading the days news paper so you can read it wherever you go on a few pieces of paper. it's to take a bookcase and fit it into a filing cabinet. They are working to turn this into something with a refresh rate fast enough for video... Image unrolling your monitor, or putting this stuff on your wall so you can watch movies on it... imagine the porn, or changing the wallpaper in your house with a touch of a button. There are lot
    • ....and I can't wait for the headaches I'm going to suffer when people start trying to fax me electronic paper documents at work.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      There are still people like me that still found unpleasant reading articles or books from pdf files on your LCD (or anything with light on the back). What they propose is a display that looks like paper. I was recently in a seminar from e-link [eink.com] and I found it really nice.

      Try look for the Sony Reader. They are recently going with color screens that look amazing as portraits and the power consumption is really low.
    • Re:Kinda dumb (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Rolgar (556636) on Thursday January 04 2007, @10:08AM (#17458100)
      The point of this will be downloading magazines and your daily paper via wifi while you're on the bus (with near zero distribution costs, most papers could go free since the ads will make them more money), and having your favorite reference materials at hand, plus a book or two would be a real boon. I'd probably even start to read again away from the computer.

      The thing is, the cost of content will have to drop. If I no longer get a physical copy, I shouldn't have to pay for the printing process, and all the overhead that implies. Lower prices might well mean a higher readership because more people would buy more books if they were cheaper and they had the time to read more than they currently do. Well known authors wouldn't have to go to a publisher anymore. They'd write their book, pay an editor out of pocket, and Amazon will let you sell a book download for 3-5 bucks, and take 2 or 3 dollars for themselves. Amazon could host a million books in the size of a small data center, and each book would pay for itself in Amazon's eyes in the first 10 copies. A hundred thousand in sales would be a quarter of a million in profit for the author. Dozens of niche authors would come out of the woodwork because the cost of self publishing would drop through the floor, and we would see an American Idol type of situation in literature, because there are all kinds of talent out waiting to be found. Further, in episodic type literature, an author might even let you download the first 2 books of a series to entice you to read books 3-4 after the first couple have been out a few years, since your downloading the first two books would cost him nothing. Hopefully, this sort of situation would yield higher quality material as well, since the author's current and ongoing sales outlook would depend directly on the number of units sold instead of getting a large contract up front before the book is even written.

      Obviously, I've been looking forward to electronic paper for a while now. Just a while longer until it's really affordable.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        The only problem I have this system is that publishers usually act as a detriment to a lot of mediocre "talent" out there.

        With this mechanism, you would also have a lot of noise:signal ratio, which would be kind of sucky.

        And while free-market may determine who comes out on top, do remember that most people are not particularly bright and would much rather read brain dead stuff than something that makes them think, analyse and question.

        That is what worries me. Finding the wheat from the chaff would be hard.
    • ``it would be the ultimate cheating method for written tests''

      Not to mention contract breakers, history revisionists, etc.