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Spam King Busted by Secret Service
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CmdrTaco
on Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:30 AM
from the we're-going-to-have-to-ask-you-to-come-with-us dept.
from the we're-going-to-have-to-ask-you-to-come-with-us dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Adam Vitale, aka Batch1 aka Baxter, 25, of Boynton Beach, FL, and his partner Todd Moeller, aka M3rk, of New Jersey, are accused of sending nearly 50,000 pieces of spam e-mail to more than 1.2 million AOL subscribers.
US Secret Service agents used a confidential informant to hire Moeller and Vitale to deliver spam, which advertised a computer security product."
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Monty writes "It looks like 'Spam King' Adam Vitale has finally plead guilty to violation of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 in federal court in New York City. 'The indictment said that in less than a week in August 2005, Vitale and Moeller sent e-mails on behalf of the informant to more than 1,277,000 addresses of subscribers at AOL, the online division of Time Warner Inc. Vitale will be sentenced on September 13 when he faces a maximum sentence of 11 years in prison. Moeller, who lives in New Jersey, faces the same charge.' We discussed Vitale's arrest back in February."
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Mugshot (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Mugshot (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot (Score:2)
His email addresses (Score:2)
vxgtrey@yahoo.com
gherjso@gmail.com
jtiwekw@hotmail.com
riwqoqop@yahoo.com
cheapmeds@gmail.com
sexysamantha@hotmail.com
etc...
Re:Mugshot (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot (Score:2)
Because in Soviet Amerika, government spams you.
Just like in Democrazy Amerika.
The real reason they waited - a few Secret Service agents are former AOHell users, and "ain't payback a bitch."
Re:Cell Location:M-S-08-B-22U-B (Score:5, Funny)
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Secret Service? (Score:2)
Re:Secret Service? (Score:5, Informative)
Check here [treas.gov] to see all the duties of the Secret Service....among them, you will find:
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Re:Illegal? (Score:3, Informative)
Oohhhh! (Score:3, Interesting)
It is about time that the authorities are starting to take a harder look at those thieves of computer ressources. I'm not only talking about the criminal botnet operators, but the "mainsleaze" spam senders.
But the true way of fighting spam is not nuking spammers per se, but rather nuking ISPs who cater to spammers, in any way, be it domain registrations, DNS service and plain web-hosting, both legit and botnets. This will make them think twice in not having a good, hard look at their abuses@* mailboxen.
Re:Oohhhh! (Score:2)
Re:Oohhhh! (Score:2)
Nuke the actual spammers. Spammers DO business in the US, since they spam the beejeeeezus of US internet users. They may be hosted abroad, but there is a money trail that goes back one way or another into the US, and this is where the FBI comes handy to do this to the spammers (NSFW: actual video of a guy having his testicles nailed to a board) [216.137.100.175].
Go after thier cash flow (Score:2)
Re:Where is the theft? (Score:2)
Theft. The good old deprivation of something you enjoy by an unauthorized party.
More clueful, now???
Re:Oohhhh! (Score:5, Insightful)
There is no such thing as a legitimate "spam list". Spam lists are **ALWAYS** full of unwitting recipients. Legitimate mailing-lists, on the other hand, only have addresses of people who have specifically requested to be included in **YOUR** (and YOURS alone - there is no such thing as a "legitimate" purchased list, because the people there HAVE NOT requested to be on it) mailing list.
They know that your lists are legitimate mailing lists because every single person on them have requested to be on them, and for the eventual complaint that seeps through, you can PROVE that the person has requested to be on it, because you have DUTIFULLY kept the actual request ON FILE.
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Re:Not always. (Score:3, Informative)
Caveat emptor. This is what disposable e-mails are for...
Google is perfect, because the addresses are "plussed [claws-and-paws.com]", so you can add a special code ("pig.hogger+bullshit@gmail.com") to tag where you give your e-mail to, and if you see different junk coming in, you know very well who's the sleazy fucker who sold your e-mail. At th
Secret Service? (Score:2)
Re:Secret Service? (Score:2)
My god, how many people are gonna ask that? Look, the Secret Service isn't just the president's bodyguard. They are the law enforcement arm of the US Treasury Department. Remember Elliot Ness, of "The Untouchables" fame? Treasury agent. The Secret Service investigates a lot of things, including credit card fraud and computer crimes.
Services rendered (Score:3, Insightful)
I guess it is good that the Secret Service doesn't have to worry about entrapment rules. It's great to hear that spam is getting wiped out but at what cost - the government is now hiring people to do things that will get them dragged into court? Maybe if everyone (including you, everyone you know and the government) stopped hiring/buying the service then maybe I might receive a little less spam and that is the only way it will really cease being a problem.
You don't understand what "entrapment" means. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:You don't understand what "entrapment" means. (Score:2)
By no means am I trying to say it's ok to spam, just trying to point out perhaps we shouldn't drop the guillotine before we know both sides of the story.
Re:You don't understand what "entrapment" means. (Score:2)
Hmm dosn't sound like his regular mode of operation...
I think he does. (Score:2)
It sounds like they did more than just posing as customers. Regardless, the moment they made an offer of cash for criminal services, they were entrapping -- inciting crime, creating criminals.
"This 'service' that the spammers were offering was their daily business. It was their regular mode of operation."
If that was a certainty, there would have been enough evidence to convict them already. I hate spam as much as the next
All depends on how it went down (Score:3, Insightful)
You'll also notice t
Re:Services rendered (Score:2)
Problem: Sex offender released from prison
Step 1: Distribute local elementary school address list
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit! (well, send him back to jail at least)
Re:Services rendered (Score:2)
What, like that's some kind of new development? Do you not read the news?
Re:Services rendered (Score:2)
You got the wrong idea. The point is not if the person entrapped is a crook who only needs a big enough lure or not, the point is that the law enforcement is not supposed to be actively promoting and encouraging crime. It also is an easy cop-out for them as instead of catching crooks which commited crimes against citizens, now they create their own, thus in
Re:Services rendered (Score:3, Insightful)
Good riddance to bad rubbish (Score:2, Interesting)
50,000 Spam to 1.5 Million Subscribers?! (Score:2)
AOL subscriber #1: Buy our very high
AOL subscriber #2: quality and cheap
AOL subscriber #2: viagra product! http:
AOL subscriber #4:
AOL subscriber #5:
Damn those evil geniuses!
Does spam pay? (Score:2)
I thought spammers were supposed to be living the lush life on our nickel.
Re:Does spam pay? (Score:2)
50K to 1.2M? (Score:2)
How to send 50k messages to 1.2M people: (Score:2, Informative)
For the sake of the demonstration, I'll pick smaller numbers. Send 2 messages to 5 persons, A, B, C, D, E.
1) Send message #1 to A, B, C.
2) Send message #2 to C, D, E.
It is not said that all 1.5M people received each of the 50k messages.
In spam emails, the From: and To: fields are often erroneous. In that case, the actual recipients are in the Bcc field. So, several people receive a same message that seems addressed to only one.
Other comment:
50k distinct emails to a total of 1.5M people [slashdot.org]
SS investigates fraud (Score:3, Informative)
and also
Since 1984, our investigative responsibilities have expanded to include crimes that involve financial institution fraud, computer and telecommunications fraud, false identification documents, access device fraud, advance fee fraud, electronic funds transfers, and money laundering as it relates to our core violations.
These guys are spammers. If they've advertised p3nis enlargement pills, they've committed fraud and, according to the Secret Service they have jurisdiction over this area. Disclaimer: IANAL
Read for yourself: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/mission.shtml [ustreas.gov]
Shenanigans! (Score:2)
Sounds like total bull to me, Why wasn't this picked up by any real news sources? And since when does the secret service care about spam?
Check your math (Score:2)
Re:Check your math (Score:2)
SPAM... that is so 90's (Score:2)
What's next? Secret Service going to bust up a bunch of bolshevics?
Actually they probably should, all of the good spam came from communist countries anyways who were probably just sending it to thumb their nose at our freedom of speech and our weight and erectile problems.
Lousy communists!
Mincing words? (Score:2)
Re:Mincing words? (Score:2)
I'm smiling as I picture: (Score:4, Funny)
Who are these fraudsters? (Score:2)
I have to wonder how shaky the case here might be.
50,000/1,200,000==? (Score:2)
Each person got 0.0416 emails?
Or did they mean that 50,000 emails were sent to each of the 1,200,000 people? That'd be 60,000,000,000 emails total...
Am I just missing something here or is there some stupidity going on with these numbers.... Artifically making the numbers seem big by including the number of AOL subscribers?
Re:Have to ask? (Score:2)
Re:Have to ask? (Score:2)
Re:Have to ask? (Score:2)
Re:How can he be the spam king? (Score:2)
I think you'll find that's 50,000 pieces of spam (or part of that 50k) to each of the 1.2 million mail boxes - otherwise it'd be 50,000 pieces of spam to 50,000 mail boxes! (or was that intended solely as a [bad] joke?)
You thought wrong... (Score:2)
The Secret Service didn't have anything to do with protecting the President until 1894, and that wasn't actually official until 1902.