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Cellphone Could Crack RFID Tags
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on Wed Feb 15, 2006 04:34 AM
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diverge_s writes "Adi Shamir of RSA is at it again. This time pointing out flaws in RFID systems. From the article: 'I haven't tested all RFID tags, but we did test the biggest brand and it is totally unprotected,' Shamir said. Using this approach, 'a cellphone has all the ingredients you need to conduct an attack and compromise all the RFID tags in the vicinity.'"
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Link to the dude itself, dude! (Score:5, Informative)
http://media.omediaweb.com/rsa2006/1_5/1_5_High.a
Prof Shamir comes on at 6:15, but I recommend watching the whole hour through.
Good thing (Score:2, Interesting)
So wait, besides inventory tracking, why do we use RFID at all?
RFID != Smart Card (Score:2, Informative)
I knew this was coming the second I saw the headline.
Biometric passports and most other applications that need secure tokens utilize smart cards.
RFID [wikipedia.org] tags are not the same as smart cards [wikipedia.org]. The difference is huge. Please do your homework.
Besides inventory tracking, we usually don't. It is just confusion and FUD.
Re:RFID != Smart Card (Score:3)
Which means, a good amount of companies really don't. Of course the same applies for magstrips, etc.
The problem is not just RFID centric, that wasn't the point I was making. It is the trade off of security for convienence.
Re:RFID != Smart Card (Score:3, Informative)
Except for the ones which really are planed to use RFIDs.
Here's some homework for you:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/08/rfid _passport_s_1.html [schneier.com]
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/30/burnham_rf id_evasions/ [theregister.co.uk]
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/22.98.html#subj7.1 [ncl.ac.uk]
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/23.87.html#subj5.1 [ncl.ac.uk]
Re:RFID != Smart Card (Score:2, Interesting)
In fact, the article by The Register you refer to deals with this issue. People are worried because "The con
Re:RFID != Smart Card (Score:3, Informative)
A smart card still needs to be swiped. I have one in my american express card. My roommates new debit card has an RFRC in it as well. As he can simple place his card on a special sign and have it read it.
Re:RFID != Smart Card (Score:5, Insightful)
My reference? I work on smart cards, including biometric passports. In this field, no one in their right mind would use RFID tags for passports, or anything requiring security. Ever.
It is sad that the web is full of stuff about RFID security, or the lack of it, and people then make the assumption that anything contactless is RFID, and thus insecure. It it really hard to try to set the facts straight, when the correctness of your facts can be questioned with a bunch of links to FUD. (And damn, even the links you provide yourself prove to contain incorrect or misleading information! Argh.)
I guess I should just give up. It'll give me a warm and fuzzy feeling to know I'm right, after all.
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Re:RFID != Smart Card (Score:3, Informative)
The problem here seems to be terminology (and clueless moderators).
You are incorrectly assuming that "RFID" means a simple tag with no crypto.
RFID is a generic term for any device that uses RF and identifys it's presence or absense. A resonant circuit without a chip that is used
to tag library books is an RFID. A contactless smartcard that use
Re:Good thing (Score:3, Insightful)
I have heard people mention that it can help rescue teams find you if you are lost in the woods, or buried in a snowdrift. Sure, I guess it could. Considering that the majority of people don't have this happen to them on a regular basis, I concluded that was not it's intended purpose.
Maybe the RFID makers greased lawmakers to make more money. Could happen. Maybe we are all getting tagged so that we can be 'found' easily. Could al
Re:Good thing (Score:5, Insightful)
(...) besides inventory tracking (...)
See the link yet ??
the only explanation is that your government sees it's citizens as inventory, just like cattle
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Because we're inventory (Score:2)
If you have any doubt look at hos the soldiers in Iraq are being treated. They aren't getting much body armor, so some soldiers are going into debt to buy theory won body armor. The most popular brand, Dragon Skin, is BETER than what the army provides.
However, the military doesn't like their soldiers taking the initiative like that, so if you're killed in combat while wearing body armor that wasn't issued by the military, your family doesn't get your death benefits. Your wife and children d
Injected RFID tags... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:5, Informative)
Whether you can or can't consent to assault is irrelevant, as by agreeing to have the surgery, it would become elective and there would be no assault to consent to.
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Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:5, Informative)
Note also that you cannot consent to assault, and just because you said it was OK the perpetrator can still be prosecuted.
Your high school business law teacher who told you that didn't know what he was talking about. You can consent to a battery (unlawful touching) or an assault (reasonable apprehension of a battery). How do you think boxing, hockey, or football work? Each participant consents to being battered and assaulted (within the rules of the game) by other participants.
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Re: Injected RFID tags... (Score:2)
No, it means my boss will end up with ten up his 455.
Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:2)
Re:Injected RFID tags... (Score:2)
Will it become the norm?
RFID tag reader already in many Nokia phones (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:RFID tag reader already in many Nokia phones (Score:5, Informative)
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Not all tags. (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, in addition to tags that have a simple 'password', that they must have before they do anything - that may be trivially vulnerable to power analysis, there are tags that do more complex things - such as for example, send the reader a random token, which it then has to encrypt with a key known to both of them.
This can be immune to power analysis - in the simplest case, as it does not check each bit as recieved, but only at the end of a computation.
And, the fact that getting the first bit correct of a hash with a given key does not help you to guess the rest.
Ban Cellphones! (Score:3, Funny)
(Cynical, yes. Too close to the truth? Unfortunately)
Splut.
i think the rfid juggernaut can't be stopped (Score:5, Insightful)
all of the other far out uses people have imagined rfid tech will be useful for once you get past check out and out of the store- all the negative and all the positive (conspiracy theory tracking, smart fridges that know when you need more milk, etc.), won't really come to pass. not because people will suddenly care about their privacy, but because of exactly this: no one will be able to design a system that can't be gamed for some sort of illicit activity. rfid use outside of the store will be undependable simply because if rfid tags are being depended upon for any sort of proof of id in the "wild", then there is immediate and easily realized incentive to game the system
in other words, rfid tags will only be useful in controlled environments. once out of the store, any grand schemes, good or bad, imagined with rfid tags in mind will be ruined by spoofing, masking, obfuscation, forgery, mass duplication, etc.
this cell phone meddling is but a very preliminary indication of the kind of homegrown creative hacks and schemes people will be devising for fun and profit in the near future using rfid technology
Re:i think the rfid juggernaut can't be stopped (Score:3, Insightful)
But then the question comes to mind.
How long will it take for the Corporations to manage a media campaign to smear anyone who would spoof or obfuscate or reproduce the RFID tags and information collected? Then spend the money it takes to make any such tampering with RFID tags to be a Felony with punishment on par with Rape and Murder.
And before anyone thinks I think corporations are 'teh evil', It's the corporation being able to legally (the ethics of it is another matter) 'purchase' legislation to enforce
It probably is already illegal... (Score:2)
Time for... (Score:5, Funny)
Re: Time for... (Score:2)
AKA "dialing for dollars".
A PCB for cloning RFID tags (Score:4, Interesting)
RFID cloning and power consumption attacks (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~gh275/relay.pdf [cam.ac.uk]
The method Shamir talked about is a little more interesting because the cards are leaking information wbout what they are doing internally. It is possible that a more detailed examination of the power consumption may reveal other detail of what the card is doing as well as when it things it has receive a bad bit.
Power analysis has been a known attack on smartcards for a long time. A few cards were vulnerable to an attacker looking for increase current draw just after a PIN/password attempt when the card tried to increment a count of the number of failures, cut the power when it tries to write to the fail count and you could attempt a brute force attack. I believe the most obvious way around the problem, to decrement the counter before checking the PIN and increment it after if the check passed, is patented.
It would be interesting to see if any RFID cards have that flaw.
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RFID is not meant for security (Score:5, Informative)
"To summarize:
RFID for inventory tracking ==> Good idea
RFID for security ==> Stupid idea"
Here below I copy parts a previous comment on another story (which wasn't moderated and thus, probably not read a lot):
Anyone interested in RFID could also start with the excellent wikipedia.org entry [wikipedia.org].
Of interest, Slashdot already discussed RFID production increases before [slashdot.org]. Yes, RFID can be scary, especially in a bank [com.com] or in passports [slashdot.org]. Imagine, even Sun [informationweek.com] cares for RFID. MobileMag have a small article about a 100% organic matter RFID chip developed in Korea, costing only 0.5 cents [mobilemag.com].
And if RFID and geospatial tech seriously interest you, see my sig
Is this news? (Score:2, Interesting)
There isn't any problem with this unless the tag claims to be secure. Also, as the report says, if the tags are going to be made cheaply available, they can't necessarily promise security. No doubt the communication could include the latest security technologies, but there would be an asso
What does the DMCA says about this ? (Score:2)
I cannot understand just one thing... (Score:5, Interesting)
You don't call your car security compromised just because everybody non-blind in victinity can read your license plate with naked eyes.
You need have access to police database in order to get sensitive information of car owner using car license plate. Nobody but criminals tries to hide their car license plate from casual observer.
Same for RFIDs - they just transmit some unique id, and one who wants to idenitfy person carrying RFID has to get access to right database (and indentity which database holds this info first).
I'd rather say that your security is compromised, if you cannot read what is transmitted by RFID tag in your passport or under your skin, and some unknown person with RFID scanner can.
So, in order to stop this hype about RFIDs compromising security, they have to cell RFID scanners for dollar on next corner, or make it standard feature of every cell phone (if components are really already in place) so everybody who is concerned about security can easily scan oneself and find out what kind of information is available from those tags.
Only reason why those RFID makers don't do it - is because they want to make money on scanners as well as chips theirselves.
Re:I cannot understand just one thing... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I cannot understand just one thing... (Score:3, Interesting)
Sadly I am not surprised by someone who works on a government IT project not knowing what he is talking about. The card systems currently on the market for opening doors generally use challenge-response authentication.
I'm told that the plan is for the UK RFID passports to use crypto. (and yes a contactless smart
Re:I cannot understand just one thing... (Score:3, Interesting)
Do you walk around wearing a large plate describing, in lettering visible from a considerable distance, all the items you are carrying about your person?
This technology could revolutionise the pickpocket industry. They don't need a complete database of all known tags. They just need to lurk down the street from the Apple store and know the code for "ipod" which is used at that particular store. Other valuable items (on the black market) that may incl
Define "Crack" (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Shamir (Score:5, Interesting)
The patent was never applicable in the UK nor the EU.
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Re:Shamir (Score:5, Insightful)
This "prior art" did not count as it was unpublished. However the point about the mathematics is exactly correct. Shamir is one of the the greatest trinity of conmen to ever plauge the computer industry.
If you ever want to know why you still don't have encrypted email, this guy is 33.33333....% of the reason.
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Re:Shamir (Score:3, Interesting)
So, why havent we seen people working on a simple to use way to do encrypted email now that they dont have to pay RSA for the patent?
this thread (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:this thread (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Shamir (Score:5, Insightful)
I disagree. Many non-trivial and ingenious algorithms in math ought to be as patentable as other fields. Developing an algorithm to perform a useful task, or significantly improving an existing algorithm to perform a useful task, is no different than other fields. It requires time, resources, effort, and ingeniouty.
The thing that I object to is the blanket patent period of 17 years that apply uniformly to all patents. The situation does not call for a one size fill all solution. The period of 17 years was probably decided a long time ago, and did not envision how rapidly the world had evolved. Even for other fields of engineering, 17 years may not always to be the most appropriate amount of time.
In the computing world, 17 years is WAY too long. That's the equivalent of probably 5 or 6 revolutions in technologies. If patents for mathematics and computing was limited to say 2 or 3 years, then I can fully support it.
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As a mathematician ... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:As a mathematician ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Quicksort ought to be patentable, sorting numbers should not.
Algorithms for solving Linear Programs ought to be patentable, duals should not.
RSA ought to be patentable, public key crypto should not.
In order for something to be patentable, it has perform a useful task.
To address your point about implementation vs algorithm, in software and mathematics, the implementation is often trivial (hence not deserving of a patent). The real innovation happens in the algorithm.
Perhaps patents is a thing of the past, but I still wish to reward innovation to inventors of complex non-trivial algorithms which advance the state of the art. And patents are the closest thing we have.
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Re:As a mathematician ... (Score:3, Insightful)
And astonishingly enough, even before [insert patented physical device here] was invented, the physics that allowed it to work the way it does still held. But you think that combining Widget A and Widget B to produce Result C is somehow more patentable than combining Number A and Number B to produce Result D?
Why? Because you can touch them?
Re:Um, he doesn't work for RSA (Score:2)
you surely mean, an active member of the mossad