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Kama Sutra Worm Could Make For A Bad Friday
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Zonk
on Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:14 AM
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mikey1134 writes "CNN is running a story about the Kama Sutra worm, a virus that is coded to overwrite files of the (potentially thousands of) infected computers. They provide some background on this viral outbreak and warn users to protect themselves" From the article: "And even for home computer users who have never taken such precautions before, security experts say now would be a good time to back up your most important data, like financial information and family photographs, to CDs, DVDs, zip drives, or an external hard drive that you know is worm and virus free. Unlike a lot of malware that exploits vulnerabilities in the Windows operating system, there is no 'patch' that can be downloaded to ward off Kama Sutra."
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Many Aliases and More Info (Score:5, Informative)
More on the worm [sans.org] and its permutations and statistics on spreading.
A very detailed analysis [lurhq.com] with all types of files that may be affected.
And, if it's worth anything to you, the Microsoft advisory [microsoft.com] which seems to tout that Windows Live Safety Center Beta [live.com] can protect against it. If you're in charge of computer security at your workplace, I would send out an e-mail instructing everyone to verify that they have the correct anti-virus definitions and to scan their computers before leaving tonight. Luckily, that's not my job where I work.
Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:3, Insightful)
Surely, there is a simple answer to this question:
if i scan my hardrive tonighte with avg or macafee or norton, am i protected ?
where do i download the patch ?
if not, this surely demonstrates that the protection companies aint worth a tinkers damm
Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:5, Informative)
Possibly yes, but also possibly not. This virus wil disable many common AV programs. My reccomendation would be to use a specialized scanner such as the one from f-secure: http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/nyxem_e.shtml [f-secure.com]. I just used that one myself.
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Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:5, Informative)
Probably yes. That's a big 99.9% yes...
Yes, the Worm tries to delete anti-virus program files. Yes, tries to stop anti-virus software running at reboot. But if it's managed to do that, there's no way you're scanning your PC tonight anyway.
Update your definitions and scan now. Inform everyone you know not to open email attachments they weren't expecting.
Which brings me to another point: Do people really get hit with these anymore? It won't make it though all the major webmail services. You haven't been able to open *.PIF or *.SCR files in Outlook for years now. You almost have to go out of your way to get infected by email worms these days.
Don't get caught up in the media hype. This isn't another Blaster.
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Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:3, Funny)
if i scan my hardrive tonighte with avg or macafee or norton, am i protected ?
where do i download the patch ?
I just emailed it to you. Click on the attachment to open it.
Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:4, Informative)
So, while you scorn his 133t skillz... the point (which you missed) is legitimate.
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Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:3, Insightful)
Absolutely, and if you don't understand something, read the comments. Chances are pretty good someone else didn't understand either and asked. Or if that hasn't happened, post the question yourself. That's why the comments section is here!
Re:Many Aliases and More Info (Score:4, Funny)
Nah, nobody needs that voodoo stuff. The virus only overwrites files of certain types. All you need to do is to turn off "show file extensions" option in Explorer to totally confuse the virus
Sorry if I confused that option's name... I haven't touched a windows box in a while.
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Obligatory Kama Sutra Comment (Score:4, Funny)
More Obligatory Kama Sutra Jokes (Score:5, Funny)
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As long as you don't (Score:3, Funny)
Your computer... (Score:5, Funny)
Write-once backups (Score:5, Insightful)
In the old days we backed up to tape and flipped a switch so the tape couldn't be overwritten. Today it's burn-once disks. Don't trust anything but physical protections from disk writes.
Re:Write-once backups (Score:5, Funny)
A destructive virus was when a sick person would start coughing so hard that they'd break tablets by knocking them over.
The cost of physical media was high & the write speed was slow. Back then, we went to a lot more effort to make sure that our backups stayed safe.
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Re:Write-once backups (Score:5, Funny)
That should serve as a warning to everyone; always make backups. Especially with important clients like that.
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Re:Write-once backups (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Write-once backups (Score:3, Informative)
What I was saying was that LTO-3 stores 400G uncompressed, the tapes are less than $70 and the drives are less than $2500. Sounds like its time for you to buy a new tape setup.
Oh yes, this (Score:5, Insightful)
And remember, kids... that's a nice computer. Would be a shame if something were to "happen" to it, you know what I mean?
Re:Oh yes, this (Score:4, Funny)
I'm sorry, our records indicate that this joke was used no less than 17 times in yesterday's thread [slashdot.org] about this same topic. You are in violation of the Stale Internet Joke Act of 2004. Please refrain from any and all AYBABTU references and report to UseNet for remedial training immediately.
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Oh leave off it (Score:5, Insightful)
This "OMG MS won't patch t3h systems!!!11" stuff on Slashdot is getting old. No, they won't patch it because there's nothing to patch. Duh. They have decided to add it to the malicious software tool, which is a mini virus scanner akin to Stinger from Mcaffee, which scans for a limited subset of viruses, but that's not a patch. Windows OneCare, which is NOT a remote control system by the way, does find it because, well, it's a virus scanner just like any other. It catches it just like AVG, F-Secure, Norton, and so on, which is to be expected as it's a competitor.
So let's leave off the bullshit ok? There are two easy methods to prevent this from hurting your system:
1) Don't run random programs that some with e-mails. If you use Outlook Express, it'll even tell you not to (twice).
2) Get a virus scanner. Doesn't need to be MS's, there are many good ones out there. I recommend AVG, it's fast and free.
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Re:Oh leave off it (Score:3, Interesting)
Super. That will take care of it. </sarcasm>
I use OWA and this is next to every single attachment: "Attachments may contain viruses that are harmful to your computer." Gee, thanks. When users see that next to every single word doc, PDF, and JPEG they get on a daily basis, they start ignoring it. If everything is a threat, nothing is a threat.
Re:The OS is working as intended -- vulnerably (Score:3, Informative)
But but but we want a patch!!! (Score:5, Informative)
Half the articles i read yesterday about this said that the public was being screwed over becuase MS wouldn't release a patch.
The only patch for stupid is a swift boot in the ass.
Re:But but but we want a patch!!! (Score:3, Interesting)
"Hey, what happened to all my documents?"
"You opened a pr0n attachment in your email, you just got what you deserved."
"Boy, I'll never do that again!"
So, if these idiots are capable of any learning at all, this might work out to be a good learning experience for them. And if they're not, well, hey -- it's not my problem they're stupid.
Patch? How about a brain patch! (Score:5, Funny)
How about a stupidty patch for opening up an attachment like the one described.
Don't I wish (Score:5, Funny)
We setup a room. The door to the room says, in every language "Danger! Do not enter". Inside they'll be a cage you need to open, again with keep out warnings. Inside the cage will be a button that says "Warning: Do not push the button, death will result!". If you push the button, you die. We come in once a week or so and clean out the body.
My guess is any person likely to push the button is also the kind that'll open random attachments despite being told not to by us, the OS, their virus scanner, etc.
Problem solved
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i have a patch (Score:5, Funny)
Re:i have a patch (Score:3, Insightful)
turn you pc to an other os and leave it on tomorrow as well
Re:i have a patch (Score:3, Insightful)
Congrats, you use Linux. It's be great if more people did, perhaps. But now you're just jerking yourself off, and it doesn't seem particularly helpful.
Zip drives? (Score:5, Funny)
What is this, 1996?
Strange... (Score:5, Funny)
Even better (Score:4, Funny)
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Hmm (Score:4, Funny)
Clue About How To Detect Whether You're Infected (Score:5, Informative)
It mentions some registry keys that the worm sets up.
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32nyxem
Go Ask Alice (Score:5, Funny)
"So while you might think it is coming from cousin Alice, most likely cousin Alice is not going to send you something that says 'Hey look at these pictures with naked people.' So that should be your first clue that a virus is propagating and you'd be well served to call cousin Alice to let her know that she is [unknowingly] sending out this type of e-mail," Sergile said.
Mr. Sergile, you obviously haven't met my cousin Alice [alicecooper.com].
Re:Go Ask Alice (Score:5, Informative)
It could be worse. Alice could be your dad [visit4info.com].
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Searches Network Shares (Score:4, Interesting)
A lot of SMEs uses unsecured and passwordless network shares for sharing company data. Data that is stored in, you guessed it, *.doc *.xls, etc, etc files. This virus looks for shared drives such as this and will corrupt the files on them tomorrow.
If only one PC in the company is effected, I can see a whole lot of sore heads tomorrow at lunchtime.
I guess I should have paid more attention to this one.
Re:Searches Network Shares (Score:4, Informative)
I installed this virus on a test network last night. It was ugly to say the least. The test network was comprised of 5 clients, 1 DC, and 1 file server. When I ran the email attachment on a client, it immediately froze, consistent with the description on F-Secure. Upon rebooting with monitoring on, it launched numerous processes, and disabled Symantec immediately. Within 4 hours it had infected the other 4 clients & the file server.
We then flipped the switch on the DC & set the date to 2/3/06. Update.exe launched half an hour after login, and within 4 hours all
Note that this test was performed with out-of-date virus defs as a test.
Here's an idea for those in a corporate environment. Create a software restriction policy for the executables associated with the virus:
%systemroot%\system32\scanregw.exe
%systemroot%\system32\update.exe
winzip quick pick.exe
winzip_tmp.exe
We did this in our test environment and it halted the virus completely.
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Anyone else calling in sick tomorrow? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Anyone else calling in sick tomorrow? (Score:3, Funny)
CME-24 aliases, information, and removal tools (Score:5, Informative)
The honest story gives you links to tools for eliminating the threat: You can run this tool: W32.Blackmal@mm Removal Tool [symantec.com], which apparently removes all variants of the worm.
Here are manual instructions: WORM_GREW.A, Also known as: CME-24 [trendmicro.com]
Here is the list of names of the CME-24 worm, and links to removal methods: CME-24 aliases, information, and removal tools [mitre.org].
Ok guys, seriously there's an easy answer. (Score:3, Insightful)
Am I safe? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Will be a good thing (Score:4, Insightful)
Sure. But I reckon gradually corrupting small parts of them is still worse. You might only realise you were infected months later, when the quarterly financial figures come out totally whacked, and you'll spend the rest of forever in the company of accountants and auditors trying to track down the correct figures.
Fragging out a file all at once? Then the victim realises something's up, gets the machine fixed, loses some work. Imperceptibly corrupting the file? Victim keeps spreading the virus, and every version of every file he works on is suddenly untrustworthy...
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Re:No patch!!!! WTF (Score:4, Insightful)
A stupid user is stupid user, the article summed it pretty well: "Unfortunately, there is no way to patch user ignorance, and the way this virus propagates is through user ignorance,"
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Re:Great reporting, CNN (Score:5, Informative)
As much as I appreciate your comment, hints on HOW to know if you're infected would have certainly helped.
So I don't get the same response to this comment, here's some links to Nyxem/Karma Sutra/MyWife (Whatever you wanna call it) removal:
- Symantec [symantec.com]
- McAffee [nai.com]
Haydn.
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Re:SAMBA shares affected? (Score:3, Insightful)
It will *probably* walk the local network and affect nay shares it can access.
But - why take the chance? Always assume it will affect anything it could possibly write to.